[Noisebridge-discuss] Page 86 and the theft done by Ruslan "Rus" Klyuev (aka "aero")

Leif Ryge leif at synthesize.us
Sun Feb 22 21:35:35 UTC 2015


On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 12:11:06PM -0800, Kevin Mitnick wrote:
> Jake,
> > A while ago we at Sudoroom decided to ban "Rus" for stealing.>> He asked us
> > not to and pled his innocence, but we did so anyway.> > Shortly afterward,
> > he did something bad at Noisebridge (which you can read > about on the 86
> > page if you like) and he was officially banned from > Noisebridge and thus
> > double-banned from Sudoroom, whatever.
> Right here we have evidence that he did in fact steal stuff.

If there is "evidence that he did in fact steal stuff" it is not right here.
Jake said he pled his innocence but Sudoroom banned him anyway.

But even if he did actually steal, does that really mean Noisebridge needed to
punish him for life by publishing his full legal name? We will now, since the
web archive of this mailing list doesn't get censored without legal orders (nor
do old revisions of wiki pages, but they are not indexed by search engines).

Since "Kevin Mitnick" has decided to punish Rus by putting his full name here,
I now feel inclined to add this to the record:

I spoke with Rus several times at Noisebridge ~2 years ago and I found him to
be a friendly and intelligent person, so I am surprised and saddened to learn
that he is no longer welcome at Noisebridge and Sudoroom. I hope he did not
steal, and if he did I hope he tried or will try to make amends. And if a
potential employer reads this thread, I hope they'll give him the benefit of
the doubt and ask him about these negative search results instead of just
skipping over him because of it.

> > Anyway, he asked me in IRC to please remove his full name from the wiki:>
> > >> "I'd really appreciate it if my first and last name were removed from
> > >> the>>  page. Rus alias "aero" would suffice, I think. I just don't want
> > >> my>> potential employers stumbling onto the 86 page and seeing that I
> > >> was>>  fucked up at the hackerspace."> > I did so and I didn't think it
> > >> was a problem.  Then on 2015-1-29:>>  Scotty:>>  Undo revision 46439 by
> > >> Jake (talk) Adding Back Rus's full name. It's>>  important for NB and
> > >> other hackerspaces who we share ban info with to>>  have full, unique
> > >> identifiers on people we've banned.
> And now he's asking for details about his transgressions to be removed from
> the wiki and you're okay with that?
> > personally, I don't think it's necessary to have his full name on the wiki
> > > and it could interfere with his employment.  It's not like he injured >
> > > anyone.  Anyway at least the group should decide.
> So Jake, are you okay with thievery and don't mind seeing potential employers
> hiring a potential threat? If so, you're everything wrong with Noisebridge.
> We have had constant problems with theft and still are and yet you're trying
> to give thieves a pass. I cannot believe you'd condone this un-neighborly
> behavior.

It is funny to see a suggestion that Jake is okay with thievery in
hackerspaces, as he is the only person I know who has actually gone so far as
to put hidden cameras in Noisebridge (and then published video of thieves in
action; I think the links are still on the 86 page).

> It's bad enough that when I last visited that my phone walked away "on its
> own" and nobody seemed to care.

I am sorry to hear that your phone was stolen :(

~leif


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