[Noisebridge-discuss] Unfairly removed, banned without consensus, and given no warning

Ronald Cotoni setient at gmail.com
Mon Feb 23 06:01:23 UTC 2015

Please disregard my previous email.  Rubin has asked you show up at the

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would suggest not showing up at a Tuesday meeting.  Please work with the
> Security Working Group to deal with this issue.  Tuesday meetings are not
> for this sort of thing anymore, as far as I was aware.  If the event is
> soon, I would safely assume that this issue will not be resolved before
> said event and I would go ahead and find another location.   I am not a
> member of the security working group and I haven't been attending the space
> for some time now but this is what I understand is the proper way to
> address this.  Also, being banned from noisebridge means you should not be
> communicating on it's communication mechanisms.  I would suggest reaching
> out to someone off list to help with this issue.
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> (Context: https://twitter.com/DocPop/status/568861286328442881)
>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>> I dunno, using Noisebridge's supplies to tell people that "locals" hate
>>> them and they should leave the city sounds pretty unexcellent to me.
>>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Jeanine Otter <jeanieotter at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi! I just wanted to share what happened to me when I was removed from
>>>> the space.
>>>> First off, I'm a somewhat new regular in the space, coming for a couple
>>>> of years, and some people may know me for working on web mapping, and full
>>>> stack development. I also had been pumping up my event for the "Transgender
>>>> Violence Mapping Project" scheduled for Thursday.
>>>> As a student of city planning, a native Californian, a socialist, and
>>>> an activist, I am disgusted by the situation in San Francisco today. In
>>>> California, all progressive change comes from citizen led initiatives, and
>>>> I am scared of the capitalists who recently moved here, who think
>>>> capitalism and deregulation is progressive. Capitalism and deregulation are
>>>> why the tech industry is known for systemic racism, sexism, bro culture,
>>>> and worse.
>>>> I don't feel like I need to justify my politics to you all, but I want
>>>> you to know what influenced me when making propaganda directed at
>>>> gentrifiers and nouveau rich capitalists who are colonizing neighborhoods
>>>> like the Mission and the Bayview where people of color are getting kicked
>>>> out.
>>>> I whipped up some propaganda and wanted to take it to the street. The
>>>> first time, I printed at a local print shop. The next time I was working on
>>>> my propaganda, it was at Noisebridge. I printed about 25 pages there.
>>>> After printing, Torrie, a member who I had talked to earlier that day,
>>>> who had disagreed with my propaganda and who justified gentrification and
>>>> removal of middle income families to me, approached my friends and I and
>>>> said "What the fuck is this? You're not welcome here and you need to
>>>> leave." As we packed our bags, Torrie and her friend stood right next to
>>>> us, glaring with their arms crossed. They followed us out the door and
>>>> glared at us as we went down the hall.
>>>> Now I noticed I'm on the 86 list. It says on there that the decision to
>>>> 86 some of the people was reached by a consensus. I don't think there was
>>>> any consensus here. I will be present at the next meeting to discuss this.
>>>> I have always had a tenuous relationship with this space. In this space
>>>> I was told women are better at making babies than programmers. I have been
>>>> told that transgender people get "too butthurt about things". But because
>>>> this is a public space, I want to clean that shit up, and make this place
>>>> better. That's why I come back, and that's why I am having an event here
>>>> for Trans Women of Color here Thursday.
>>>> I understand that you may disagree with my politics, and you may think
>>>> it's not a great message, but removing an anti-gentrification activists
>>>> because it makes "some members uncomfortable" is a farce. Propaganda should
>>>> make you feel uncomfortable. And it's not my manifesto, it's just a noise
>>>> in the din surrounding the hot topic issue.
>>>> So I ask you all: Can we discuss me being 86ed, and the state of me
>>>> hosting an event in the space SOON, because I need to know if I need to
>>>> find a new venue. I also would like to discuss the inappropriate actions of
>>>> Torrie.
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> Ronald Cotoni
> Systems Engineer

Ronald Cotoni
Systems Engineer
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