[Noisebridge-discuss] Unfairly removed, banned without consensus, and given no warning

Naomi Most pnaomi at gmail.com
Mon Feb 23 19:37:01 UTC 2015


OK, this has gone on long enough and is a waste of everyone's time.

First of all, Jeanine is not a "regular" and I don't care how long she says
she's been at Noisebridge.  No one knew her at the meeting she showed up to
2 weeks ago, where we welcomed the transgender violence mapping project she
mentioned. That was pretty much everyone's first knowledge of Jeanine.

Then we have Jeanine writing well-written letters to the community
basically characterizing everyone as being super mean to her and her just
being a reasonable person and trying to do the right thing.  Right.

This "propaganda" she's hyping -- notice how she's not mentioning any of
what it actually says in her emails.  Because she knows that if she did,
she'd be laughed at.

"Die techie scum" in a horror font is not propaganda, it's artless
schlock.  Particularly when placed at Noisebridge, a place created to lower
the barrier of entry of tech education and resources to the wider community.

But that's totally besides the point.  We're annoyed at Jeanine because
she's using cheap shots to try and wedge herself into the community, such
as characterizing Torrie as just a big meany out to get her.

When we interacted with her the other night -- when she came to Noisebridge
looking for brushes she could borrow so she could wheatpaste the Mission --
her response to our concerns about the flyers being simply mean and lacking
in any useful outcomes was to say, "I'm not having this argument right now"
(shutting down the conversation) and then to follow with, "This is an
anarchist public space" (asserting that the concerns of the community don't
matter, she can do whatever she wants, because you know anarchy == no
control man!).

So here we have someone who's playing all the boring regular cards we've
seen so many times in an effort to get attention and win unintelligent
friends to her side, so that she can continue to not spend the $10 it costs
to poster the Mission.

Whatever.

--Naomi




On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Simon C. Ion <ion.simon.c at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Completely unrelated to the 86 issue:
>
> On 02/22/2015 04:22 PM, Jeanine Otter wrote:
> > ...I want you
> > to know what influenced me when making
> > propaganda directed at gentrifiers
> > and nouveau rich capitalists...
>
> You're targeting tech workers (who make up ~8% of SF's resident
> population), rather than "property investment" firms, real estate
> speculators, and the diverse set of obstructionists responsible for the
> area's failure to build enough housing to meet growing demand?
>
> I'm all for demanding change to a shitty situation, but directing one's
> energy at the most appropriate targets is pretty critical.
>
>
>
>
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