[Noisebridge-discuss] RIP Fox Lounge

Henner Zeller h.zeller at acm.org
Tue May 12 15:20:07 UTC 2015

On 12 May 2015 at 07:13, Kevin Mitnick <kevin.mitnick at outlook.com> wrote:

> Does it not bother anybody else that we're seeing amateur electrical work
> done again?

Not at all.  Though it bothers me that you bring a negative connotation of
'amateur' in this sentence. You assume that 'amateur' electrical work is
worse/less safe or whatever than work by someone who is paid of it. Yet the
important that things are done correctly and safely which the people in the
space who have worked on these things know. It is really not hard to wire
up things and follow the safety rules. Many of us have done this since they
are kids.

Amateurs are what makes a Hackerspace. Literally the word means 'someone
who loves what they are doing'. If we wouldn't be passionate about what we
are doing, Noisebridge wouldn't exist, because there would be no passionate
people who work with technology even though they are not in the field 'by
trade'. But they very well know what they are doing and know how to safely
operate their space. Otherwise there would be nobody using a tablesaw (OMG,
blade). Or nobody soldering (OMG, heat), or Neurohacking (OMG, electrodes
connected to humans), or software writing (OMG, no software engineering
degree) ... and Noisebridge would be dead.


> Kevin Mitnick
> (May or may not be the Kevin you think I am)
> From: tdfischer at hackerbots.net
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 20:34:08 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] RIP Fox Lounge
> 13 days later, the Fox Lounge is habitable again.
> Big thanks to Rubin for furnishing the project with some cool filament LED
> lights and electrical hardware.
> Next time one feels a desire to rip the thing down, please do try to be a bit
> more excellent and cut the ropes near the knots, and put all the lights in a
> place that they won't get stepped on and broken. This iteration leaves access
> to the ladder for elevator shack access when that is needed.
> <3
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 09:22:53 PM Torrie Fischer wrote:
> > Some time ago the fabric in the Fox Lounge was taken down and dumped in a
> > corner. Today I saw it used as curtains, which made me sad :(
> >
> > In response, I doocratically tore apart the Fox Lounge to get a ladder in
> > there. The ceiling is painted with a lovely sky blue now! I'm done for the
> > night, but after $dayjob tomorrow I'll be painting some nighttime stars with
> > glow in the dark paint and re installing the fabric along with some other
> > hanging effects.
> >
> > The couches are still in disarray while the ladder sits there and things
> > dry. I'll be putting it all back when I'm done tomorrow, but I don't see
> > much sense in moving it all back since I'll be having the 12' ladder all
> > over the floor very soon anyways.
> >
> > Cheers~
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