[Noisebridge-discuss] front page translation to spanish

Trent Robbins robbintt at gmail.com
Mon Feb 1 23:56:02 UTC 2016


No problem. Anyone can do anything. I thought I said that in my previous
email but I guess I wasn't clear enough. Sorry about that.

Trent

On Monday, February 1, 2016, Travis Briggs <audiodude at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Not to be a pain, but on
> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/FractalWorkingGroup I see:
>
>
>    - a group can begin with an individual or group of individuals at any
>    time, for any reason.
>
>
> Which implies that anyone can start a group (which seems in line with
> doacracy). But later it talks about membership requirements for the group:
>
>
>    - any NB member* may join, observe, or send suggestions to any group.
>    (*"member" means any Board Member, Member, and any other formally approved
>    NB participant)
>    - any NB non-member may participate in a group with the sponsorship of
>    one formally recognized NB "member" as defined above.
>
>
> So the question is, can "NB non-member"s start a WG? Do they need
> sponsorship from a member to do so?
>
> Sorry if this has drifted from the original topic.
>
> -Travis
>
> On 1 February 2016 at 14:37, Trent Robbins <robbintt at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','robbintt at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> I don't see this as bikeshedding, but at this point this needs to be spun
>> off noisebridge discuss into a working group so we don't all have to be
>> exposed to it.  Please use the fractal working group model
>> <https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/FractalWorkingGroup> if you wish to.
>> Note that the fractal working group page needs updated. Anyone can
>> participate in a fractal working group, it has nothing to do with
>> membership at all.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Trent Robbins
>> Tau Informatics LLC
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>> @trentrobbins
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rubin at starset.net');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here are some wiki pages...
>>>
>>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/It's_a_Wiki
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 February 2016 at 14:23, Travis Briggs <audiodude at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','audiodude at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A brief search turns up Extension:Translate <
>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate> which requires
>>>> MediaWiki 1.24. From this page <
>>>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Special:Version>, it looks like
>>>> Noisebridge is on 1.19.1
>>>>
>>>> The cool part about that extension is that it supports "auto"
>>>> translation of pages by integrating with an online translation service. It
>>>> also has a web interface where people could translate pages, as well as
>>>> gettext export for offline translation, which could be used to build a
>>>> custom workflow.
>>>>
>>>> I think if you really want to translate the Noisebridge website, this
>>>> is what you want.
>>>>
>>>> -Travis
>>>>
>>>> On 1 February 2016 at 14:09, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeffreyatw at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Making Noisebridge into an “app” rather than a wiki has been discussed
>>>>> before and no one has amassed the appropriate amount of effort or support
>>>>> to make it a reality. I personally believe that the wiki ain’t broke, we
>>>>> don’t need to fix it, and the path forward should simply be to upgrade it
>>>>> to a version of MediaWiki that supports i18n.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Rob M <veryprofessionalguy at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','veryprofessionalguy at gmail.com');>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What's the plan for the frontpage revamp?  I learned earlier this
>>>>> morning that it's somehow done in mediawiki (didn't know that was a
>>>>> thing).  I was going to recommend working on translations for the front-end
>>>>> because it's more stable than the typical 'manual info' that get's updated
>>>>> in noisebridge's wiki, but I guess the whole thing is a wiki.  Have people
>>>>> discussed making a more solidified 'app' of our landing page?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If we have the content somewhere on github, we'll still have write
>>>>> access, it's just more involved getting PRs into master, and doing code
>>>>> rollouts/ content updates.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 02/01/2016 01:54 PM, Rubin Abdi wrote:
>>>>> >> Considering we've got a todo item to do a revamp/clean up of the
>>>>> front page and all linked to pages, I would advise holding off on hiring
>>>>> translations services until that work is done.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 1 February 2016 at 09:49, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','maltman23 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>> >> Aweseome!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> If you want to make other languages happen on the Noisebridge wiki,
>>>>> while being non-disruptive to the usability of the site, I'd be way into
>>>>> it.  You'll need to coordinate with Jeffrey and others, assuming they're
>>>>> also into it.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 23:44:16 -0800
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] front page translation to spanish
>>>>> >> From: dmhomee at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dmhomee at gmail.com');>
>>>>> >> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','maltman23 at hotmail.com');>
>>>>> >> CC: jeffreyatw at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeffreyatw at gmail.com');>;
>>>>> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net');>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Omg it would be for iOS development!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On that topic, I think it would be pretty cool to get chinese and
>>>>> vietnamese translation as well....
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Mitch Altman <
>>>>> maltman23 at hotmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','maltman23 at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>> >> It would be great to get more Hispanic people to become part of our
>>>>> community.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Praveen -- using Noisebridge for meetups is way cool, as long as it
>>>>> is about why Noisebridge exists, which is hacking:  art, craft, tech,
>>>>> science, making things, fixing things, workshops and classes as related to
>>>>> the above, politics and society as related to the above.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 15:54:17 -0800
>>>>> >> From: dmhomee at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dmhomee at gmail.com');>
>>>>> >> To: jeffreyatw at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeffreyatw at gmail.com');>
>>>>> >> CC: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net');>
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] front page translation to spanish
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Yes, it is a good use of time.  Getting the initial translation
>>>>> will provide for a template, and it is easier to update over time.  It will
>>>>> encourage more spanish speakers at the space, and that in turn will help
>>>>> with maintenance.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I may be starting work with immigrant students at city college
>>>>> soon, and I'd like to use noisebridge for a meet ups.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I /really/ don't like machine translation  a) it's shitty for
>>>>> anything more than a sentence.  b) a human touch is just better!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <
>>>>> jeffreyatw at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeffreyatw at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>> >> Is that really a good use of time?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> If you have a separate Spanish front page, what happens if someone
>>>>> edits the English one? Then you have out-of-date information.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> That, or you’re asking for someone to translate all of their edits.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I think a better approach would be to make sure the copy on the
>>>>> pages you’re interested in internationalizing still read well when sent
>>>>> through an online translator. Unless you have some sort of deep-seated
>>>>> resentment against Google’s free services, I don’t see why Google Translate
>>>>> is such a bad idea for a page with non-colloquial English phrasing.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Jeffrey
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> > On Jan 31, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Praveen Sinha <dmhomee at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dmhomee at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Yo Noisebridge,
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > One of the biggest irks of accessibility to me was the lack of
>>>>> spanish language documents while situated in a latino neighborhood.  In
>>>>> specific, I'm thinking about hiring someone to translate our front wiki
>>>>> page, and maybe some supporting docs.... But I think the front page is
>>>>> locked down right now.  Anyone know who I should to talk to get such an
>>>>> initiative going?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > con amor,
>>>>> >> > Praveen
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>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Rubin
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>>>>> >>
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