[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge-discuss Digest, Vol 100, Issue 9

Jehan Tremback jehan.tremback at gmail.com
Wed Feb 10 18:28:39 UTC 2016


People are just much more inclined to listen to a robotic voice from the
ceiling telling them to do work, give money, or leave an area vs being told
the same things by a lowly human.

"I'm not telling you to leave, it's our robot overlord. Please don't make
it angry. We can calm it by putting money in the box"

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>    1. Re: The auto voice device on the ceiling (Rubin Abdi)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net>
> To: Zach <organic_unity at yahoo.com>
> Cc: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 00:18:21 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The auto voice device on the ceiling
> After some review and feedback from others (and more review) I've tweaked
> the system a little bit. Please let me know how it sounds. Thanks.
>
> On 4 February 2016 at 00:22, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> TL;DR: I've installed some new speakers and an amp in the rack. The bass
>> is now turned down all the way and the volume is set to something pleasant.
>> Additionally I've found a new TTS voice, Mary Poppins, that has been
>> reasonable/bearable for all the people I've asked to listen to it. The
>> ability to mute Mary Poppins has been spruced up. And lastly I've made Mary
>> a little less verbose.
>>
>> Again when we had the thing running before we had a bunch more people
>> donate money than we had prior due to Mary reminding people to do so, and
>> there were other people who were thankfully happy to be reminded about last
>> BART. There's a lot of benefit to having Mary talk than not.
>>
>> At this point we're going to run an experiment with Mary. If people have
>> a legitimate problem with it, they are welcome to reply back to this thread
>> (or better yet talk with me in person) and provide better solutions to such
>> problems.
>>
>> To mute Mary for 60 minutes, please go to the URL listed on the paper
>> hanging on the bottom of the rack. If you don't have a phone or computer to
>> hit the URL with, please use one of the internet terminals sitting at the
>> back of the space.
>>
>> If you want to mute Mary for longer (if you're running an event in the
>> Hackitorium) you can either ask on Slack or email the av@ Noisebridge
>> mailing list (which can be found on the mute URL). Please do not abuse the
>> mute because you'd like to use it as a sort of protest instead of actually
>> talking with me so we can find a better solution together.
>>
>> Zach: I would appreciate hearing the opinions of your golden ears
>> regarding volume level.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On 25 December 2015 at 01:22, Zach <organic_unity at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the infos Rubin.  (and I hope you are having fun in Ireland!)
>>>
>>> I agree with some of those benefits for sure.  Especially the trash and
>>> donations.  Is there a way (at the very least) to disable it for the
>>> regular meeting hours between 7pm-9pm?  This thing drives me nuts at
>>> meetings and pegasus wouldn't mute it a few weeks ago (we tried).
>>> Also one notable problem with this that bums me is the annoyance of
>>> needing net access to mute it.  I don't come to NB with a laptop and I feel
>>> like things in the space which require one are a bit annoying.  Could we
>>> *please* have a physical mute button we could press?  I'm all about hacking
>>> in the physical realm of things and this would be so lovely.
>>>
>>> I also think this thing would be just as effective at 6db to 12db lower
>>> volume.  The volume it currently is set at is really grating.
>>> thats just my two cents.
>>>
>>> -Zach
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> On Thu, 12/24/15, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The auto voice device on the ceiling
>>>  To: "mohammed Gh" <mahomagh at gmail.com>
>>>  Cc: "NoiseBridge Discuss" <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>  Date: Thursday, December 24, 2015, 11:57 PM
>>>
>>>  Greeting
>>>  from Dublin Ireland, and eventually 32C3.
>>>  First off please don't mess with
>>>  the rack. Since we've moved it up to the ceiling and
>>>  made it difficult to get into, the internet has worked
>>>  pretty flawlessly without much down time.
>>>  The computer voice that speaks was
>>>  implemented a few months ago. In the evening it speaks up
>>>  coming BART times, and through out the day it randomly asks
>>>  people to donate.
>>>  Since we've set this up
>>>  we've observed a few things...
>>>  1. A few people have thanked us for
>>>  setting it up, as they didn't miss the last
>>>  BART.2. There was an immediate influx of random
>>>  cash donations.3. People have stated they've
>>>  remembered to take out the trash.4. People have
>>>  stated that it made the notion of closing the space a little
>>>  more official and easier to ask others to
>>>  leave.5. Sometimes there are classes and events
>>>  where people would like the voice to not randomly go
>>>  off.6. There isn't a single voice that
>>>  everyone is happy with or can understand.7.
>>>  Someone else with access to pegasus has been trying to play
>>>  with the speaker volume, which as caused the thing to end up
>>>  getting too loud.
>>>  Because of reasons 1 and 2 we would
>>>  like to see the computer voice not go away.
>>>  Because of reason 5, there's a
>>>  web site (which is printed and posted on the sides of the
>>>  rack) which will allow you to mute the voice for the current
>>>  hour. Additionally you can simply email the discuss list
>>>  stating you've got an event going on and would like to
>>>  not have the voice go off.
>>>  Because of reason 6 not everyone
>>>  will be happy with this thing. The last time I rotated the
>>>  voice around was a few weeks ago. The voice we're
>>>  currently using (espeak -ven-westindies+f4 "$*")
>>>  that those folks in the space that night could agree on as
>>>  being the least offensive.
>>>  I am happy to change the voice to a
>>>  better (FOSS) TTS alternative. The prior voice I used came
>>>  from MaryTTS. If you have an alternative that you feel is
>>>  better, I'll be delighted to meet up with you in the
>>>  space for a demo and switch it over if it actually does
>>>  sound good.
>>>  Since a
>>>  bunch of us are traveling right now, I've gone through
>>>  and disabled all the scheduled jobs to make the thing speak.
>>>  I will turn it back on when I return after the 10th of
>>>  January and be open to any discussion leading to a better
>>>  constructive solution that isn't "it's loud and
>>>  annoying and should go away".
>>>  Thanks!
>>>
>>>  On 25 December 2015 at
>>>  06:06, mohammed Gh <mahomagh at gmail.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>  I am down to meet this weekend.
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at
>>>  2:52 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>  Agreed!
>>>  Lets meet up and talk about some ideas?  Maybe sometime
>>>  this weekend?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Zach R <organicunity at hotmail.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > Agreed.  It was a cool idea and I think there are ways
>>>  to make it work.  But
>>>
>>>  > it has interrupted classes a lot and especially been a
>>>  nuisance at meetings
>>>
>>>  > where I can't hear people talking across the
>>>  room.
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > ________________________________
>>>
>>>  > From: noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net
>>>
>>>  > <noisebridge-discuss-bounces at lists.noisebridge.net>
>>>  on behalf of mohammed Gh
>>>
>>>  > <mahomagh at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>  > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 12:03 PM
>>>
>>>  > To: Ronald Cotoni
>>>
>>>  > Cc: NoiseBridge Discuss
>>>
>>>  > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] The auto voice
>>>  device on the ceiling
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > I agree it is loud and annoying in many occasions of
>>>  the day especially when
>>>
>>>  > it is quite and every one is hacking on something and
>>>  not wondering about
>>>
>>>  > the bart schedule.
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > This is not the first time I hear a complain about it
>>>  and I think it is time
>>>
>>>  > to apply the and only rule we have and find a middle
>>>  ground.
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > "Be Excellent to Each Others "
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > Happy holiday to you all.
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  > On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  >>
>>>
>>>  >> No but you could donate.  I believe it suppresses
>>>  it or something.
>>>
>>>  >>
>>>
>>>  >>
>>>
>>>  >> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015, 9:43 AM n <jpk at pobox.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  >>>
>>>
>>>  >>> Is there any way to lower the volume on that
>>>  auto voice that
>>>
>>>  >>> periodically goes off 24/7?
>>>
>>>  >>>
>>>
>>>  >>> I tried the url posted on it and it doesn't
>>>  work.
>>>
>>>  >>>
>>>
>>>  >>> Nick
>>>
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