[Noisebridge-discuss] [Noisebridge-announce] Noisebridge Statement on Jacob Appelbaum

John Shutt john.d.shutt at gmail.com
Sat Jun 11 19:44:52 UTC 2016


It’s possible you haven’t read all of the first-hand accounts, but there are many claiming patterns of sexual harassment and intimidation and several claiming outright sexual assault. If you believe those claims and don’t see how they would justify a ban, you should really reflect on that, and try to imagine a scenario where a space could be healthy and functional while refusing to bar a serial sexual abuser who primarily targets members of the community.
> On Jun 11, 2016, at 12:26 PM, Andrey Fedorov <me at anfedorov.com> wrote:
> 
> Should either the vast majority of the claims turn out to be unfounded
> 
> Even if all of the first-hand accounts I've read are completely true (and I believe they are), I do not see it as obviously justifying a ban from the space.
> 
> So again: what claims and by what reasoning?
> 
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 5:25 AM, Simon C. Ion <ion.simon.c at gmail.com <mailto:ion.simon.c at gmail.com>> wrote:
> On 06/11/2016 12:45 AM, Andrey Fedorov wrote:
> > Sure thing, Jim. I'll refrain from quoting Niemöller, and just say suppression
> > of discussion via emotional triggers is a really shallow rhetorical tactic.
> > I think we're better than that.
> 
> Should either the vast majority of the claims turn out to be unfounded
> or -even worse- the whole thing turn out to likely be a coordinated
> smear campaign, I would hope that Noisebridge and others who have made
> denouncements would have the stones to make a *very* public apology.
> 
> 
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