[Noisebridge-discuss] [Noisebridge-announce] Noisebridge Statement on Jacob Appelbaum

2011PIguppy2011 2011PIguppy2011 at gmail.com
Sat Jun 11 19:47:46 UTC 2016


Can you all have these conversations one on one please. 99% of people on
this list did not subscribe for this purpose.

The other 1% are being too loud.



On Saturday, June 11, 2016, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com> wrote:

> It’s possible you haven’t read all of the first-hand accounts, but there
> are many claiming patterns of sexual harassment and intimidation and
> several claiming outright sexual assault. If you believe those claims and
> don’t see how they would justify a ban, you should really reflect on that,
> and try to imagine a scenario where a space could be healthy and functional
> while refusing to bar a serial sexual abuser who primarily targets members
> of the community.
>
> On Jun 11, 2016, at 12:26 PM, Andrey Fedorov <me at anfedorov.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','me at anfedorov.com');>> wrote:
>
> Should either the vast majority of the claims turn out to be unfounded
>
>
> Even if all of the first-hand accounts I've read are completely true (and
> I believe they are), I do not see it as obviously justifying a ban from the
> space.
>
> So again: what claims and by what reasoning?
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 5:25 AM, Simon C. Ion <ion.simon.c at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ion.simon.c at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> On 06/11/2016 12:45 AM, Andrey Fedorov wrote:
>> > Sure thing, Jim. I'll refrain from quoting Niemöller, and just say
>> suppression
>> > of discussion via emotional triggers is a really shallow rhetorical
>> tactic.
>> > I think we're better than that.
>>
>> Should either the vast majority of the claims turn out to be unfounded
>> or -even worse- the whole thing turn out to likely be a coordinated
>> smear campaign, I would hope that Noisebridge and others who have made
>> denouncements would have the stones to make a *very* public apology.
>>
>>
>>
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