[Noisebridge-discuss] [Noisebridge-announce] Noisebridge Statement on Jacob Appelbaum

Quinn Norton quinn at quinnnorton.com
Sat Jun 11 22:22:33 UTC 2016


Just to throw in an FYI, I've been in the room when he was humiliating 
and threatening to anally rape a friend of mine, and believe me, my 
friend was definitely not into it. We were in front of about a dozen 
people. I drew his attention, and argued with him to get my friend away 
from him, but everyone just let that kind of shit happen regularly, 
afaict. I saw plenty of other shit, but that was the worst sexual abuse 
I witnessed first hand -- that was enough. The only thing coordinated 
has been the sense that there's enough critical mass for people to talk 
about it without having Jake able to threaten them.

Quinn

On 6/12/16 5:34 AM, Naomi Most wrote:
> Andrey,
>
> Excuse me, but -- who are you?
>
> --Naomi
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Andrey Fedorov <me at anfedorov.com 
> <mailto:me at anfedorov.com>> wrote:
>
>         Should either the vast majority of the claims turn out to be
>         unfounded
>
>
>     Even if all of the first-hand accounts I've read are completely
>     true (and I believe they are), I do not see it as obviously
>     justifying a ban from the space.
>
>     So again: what claims and by what reasoning?
>
>     On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 5:25 AM, Simon C. Ion
>     <ion.simon.c at gmail.com <mailto:ion.simon.c at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         On 06/11/2016 12:45 AM, Andrey Fedorov wrote:
>         > Sure thing, Jim. I'll refrain from quoting Niemöller, and
>         just say suppression
>         > of discussion via emotional triggers is a really shallow
>         rhetorical tactic.
>         > I think we're better than that.
>
>         Should either the vast majority of the claims turn out to be
>         unfounded
>         or -even worse- the whole thing turn out to likely be a
>         coordinated
>         smear campaign, I would hope that Noisebridge and others who
>         have made
>         denouncements would have the stones to make a *very* public
>         apology.
>
>
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