[Noisebridge-discuss] Broken Elevator Incident and Ideas for Improvement
jeremy at rollinson.me
Sun Jun 25 03:21:36 UTC 2017
As one of the people present in the space when this incident occurred I'd
like to provide some context.
The individual who became stuck in the elevator was asked to leave the
space after displaying some much less than excellent behaviour.
They had picked up someone's eye glasses, walked away and, when questioned
politely, responded with abusive and aggressive language. At that point
they were asked to leave.
They went back to the elevator and slammed the elevator doors which caused
the malfunction. They had originally entered via the elevator so up until
that point it had been working.
Multiple attempts were made to resolve the malfunction and open the
During this time the individual trapped in the elevator became increasingly
agitated and identified 'she' as their preferred pronoun. From that point
forward everyone attempting to assist in freeing the door respected that
wish and all others trying to help were very clear at all times that we
should be careful to be excellent in our attempts to resolve the problem.
After 10 minutes or so of repeated attempts to free the door in the face of
continued abusive language and aggressive behaviour calling emergency
services was discussed.
All of these discussions focused in the well-being and safety of the
individual and others in the space and only that. Nobody wanted SFPD to
attend or wished the individual any of the potentially negative impact of
Only when the individual tried to exit the elevator via the hatch,
successfully, was a call placed to 911. This was done purely due to safety
911 was initially busy but after a number of calls someone got through.
They were very clear about not wanting SFPD only the fire service in order
to free the individual.
911 explained that the fire service could only be called after SFPD had
That is the only reason SFPD were involved and the only reason they were in
Everyone in the space while this unfortunate incident occurred did
everything they could to ensure that the individual was treated excellently
while being mindful of their and all other persons safety.
I personally did not see any assault weapons being shown or used by the
attending police but was not monitoring their activity in and around the
Anything we can do as a community to improve how we deal with these
situations would be positive. There was some confusion as to who should be
called and what process should be followed so perhaps a prominently
displayed or known poster/handbook would be good?
On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 at 16:56, Kevin Schiesser <bfb at riseup.net> wrote:
> I had no idea this is why the elevator is out of order. Thank you for
> sharing Zach. Ping me if I can help realize any of your proposals below.
> What is the recommended way to respond to being trapped in the elevator?
> Ideally there's a button to push in case of emergency that establishes a
> bidirectional communication link with the 3rd floor. In lieu of such a
> button, a cell phone with service/wifi could be sufficient. Assuming
> neither of those things exist.. what's the best next step? Holler until
> analog communication is established?
> Also, how did the person in the elevator respond in this case? I am
> struggling to fill in some gaps in my mind and some clarity might help
> understand how we dropped the ball on deescalation and could improve in
> the future.
> Thanks much,
> On 6/24/17 3:52 PM, Revolt wrote:
> > <<sending this from another address since my emails keep bouncing from
> > my other addy>>
> > I am very concerned about the incident that happened at Noisebridge
> > recently regarding the police coming and breaking the elevator and
> > arresting a homeless transgender person. Completely aside from the
> > fact that this broken elevator keeps me from entering the space now (I
> > use a wheelchair) and will probably keep me out of the space for
> > weeks, there are some thoughts I would like to share:
> > As a longtime member of the community I believe NB has struggled over
> > the years with de-escalation and people have been far too quick to
> > include law enforcement. The police in San Francsico are infamous for
> > their unnecessary use of force and I do not want Noisebridge to be
> > associated with violence of this or any kind. I was told by someone
> > present at the arrest that the police had come in with weapons,
> > including an assault rifle. This is /completely unacceptable/ and
> > presents a far greater threat to safety and people visiting the space
> > than just some person yelling in an elevator.
> > The fact that a person got trapped in our notoriously unsafe and
> > confusing elevator and was then confronted with police brandishing
> > fatal weapons and what sounds like homophobic responses is really
> > problematic on all fronts. Even if the elevator hadn't been broken,
> > this would not be cool.
> > I propose the following:
> > 1. Let us educate ourselves as a community on de-escalation
> > techniques. Keeping incidents like this from escalating will also
> > keep up in better favor with landlords and police and everyone else.
> > I have worked with the homeless population over the years and have
> > been close with people living on the streets and people in the LGBTQ
> > an POC communities. Let's create better dialogue by:
> > a) Hosting a de-escalation event at Noisebridge. I am happy to
> > with this. I am sure there are others with knowledge to share and
> > many simple techniques can prevent problematic incidents.
> > b) Host a "get to know your neighbors" type event where we could
> > learn more about those that have lost their homes in this economic
> > recession and create a more humanizing image and dialog. I bet
> > organizations like the Coalition on Homelessness and others would be
> > willing to speak or help out.
> > c) Host an LGBTQ awareness event at NB (it's Pride week after
> > There are a lot of people at NB who have recently moved to SF and
> > might not know the dos and don'ts of respectful communication with
> > people in the LGBTQ community. Let's learn from each other.
> > Conversations have been happening on a one-on-one basis but I think NB
> > would greatly benefit from a larger discussion.
> > and
> > 2. Let's make a /clear typed posting/ in the elevator of what to do in
> > emergencies or if you feel trapped. An emergency contact number and
> > basic safety procedures would go a long way.
> > I have friends who identify as female and friends that identify as
> > transgender who no longer come to Noisebridge because they feel unsafe
> > and discriminated against in the space. They are very talented people
> > that have a lot to contribute and there are others as well. Let's
> > step up our game our educate one another and keep the space safe and
> > as drama-free as possible with less police and broken elevators.
> > -Zach
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