[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Meeting 10/17/2017

John Shutt john.d.shutt at gmail.com
Fri Oct 20 01:46:58 UTC 2017


Hi Zach,

I have some qualms about this being passed off as consensus when there were clearly concerns about allocating money from the general fund that members (including myself) shared outside of the meeting. I don’t believe that true consensus includes just 100% of people present at a meeting, but 100% of the community. I have an ongoing obligation that keeps me from attending Tuesday meetings, but even if I did not, the meetings are not the only place where consensus is reached. The vast majority of discussion typically takes place outside of the meeting.

My practice when proposing consensus items, especially when they involve spending money, is to make a good faith effort to get broad feedback and revise proposals to address concerns and clarify specific details. Whether or not someone is physically present at the meeting is not really pertinent.

I respect the goal of this proposal and look forward to working on repairing the elevator with funds already set aside. As far as immediately allocating additional money from the general fund to the elevator repair fund, I do not believe we have a true consensus on that decision, as reflected by the long conversations on -discuss.

Best,
John

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> On Oct 19, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Revolt <revoltrightnow at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The "large C" consensus item that I proposed at the Noisebridge
> meeting on 10/10/2017 with consensus reached on 10/17/17 was to
> allocate a minimum of $400 per year from the Noisebridge general fund
> towards elevator repairs.  This can be verified by all the people
> present who were 100% in support of this item (as far as I know, no
> one spoke out against it and many spoke up in support).
> 
> Any money available beyond that is great.  I am glad that the DBI is
> requiring NB to spend money ($200) for ADA access, but this does not
> necessarily have to go to the elevator.
> 
> The money that Phillip is planning to donate ($720) to be matched by
> the equipment fund ($720) is not yet available and is a separate issue
> to this consensus item.
> 
> Hopefully that offers some clarification.  If anyone has any other
> questions or was at the meetings and feels this is inaccurate, please
> let us know.
> 
> -Zach
> 
>> On 10/19/17, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Another interpretation: The proposal says at least $400 should be spent, but
>> we can spend more if there are more funds available. Since we have $200 in
>> the fund already, $720 more incoming, and $920 in matching grants available
>> from the equipment fund, we could spend $1,840 on elevator repair this year.
>> This is also just my read on it and would want to have a sense of other
>> people’s thoughts.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:04 PM, kprichard <kprichard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> I am only aware of the 2017-10-10 meeting notes writeup-
>>> 
>>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2017_10_10#Elevator_Repair_Fund
>>> 
>>> Others may be aware of another version.
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:51 PM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Can someone link to the actual text of the consensus proposal?
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:32 PM, kprichard <kprichard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greetings, NB-
>>>>> 
>>>>> A meeting has occurred.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Most notable, Zach's consensus item proposal from last week, of creating
>>>>> a set-aside for elevator repair from the general fund, was read again
>>>>> and has gone into effect without objection.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Meeting Summary-
>>>>>  *   Announcements: 2017-10-30: Google "Playcrafting" game dev expo;
>>>>> ADA compliance floor markings added; City College is adding maker
>>>>> spaces
>>>>>  *   Finances: we have 9 months rent in the bank
>>>>>  *   New members: open apps: Nicole (3rd week), Merlin (4th week;
>>>>> deferred: not present)
>>>>>  *   New philanthropists: open apps: Kelly A (1st week)
>>>>>  *   Consensus Items: Zach's proposal to allocate general funds for
>>>>> elevator repair was consensed ($400 to start)
>>>>>  *   Discussion Items: (none)
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2017_10_17
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Kevin
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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