[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Meeting 10/17/2017

Trent Robbins robbintt at gmail.com
Fri Oct 20 04:37:24 UTC 2017


I agree that this conversation was ongoing.

Does anyone know where the consensus proposal text is available for review?

Trent

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:46 PM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Zach,
>
> I have some qualms about this being passed off as consensus when there
> were clearly concerns about allocating money from the general fund that
> members (including myself) shared outside of the meeting. I don’t believe
> that true consensus includes just 100% of people present at a meeting, but
> 100% of the community. I have an ongoing obligation that keeps me from
> attending Tuesday meetings, but even if I did not, the meetings are not the
> only place where consensus is reached. The vast majority of discussion
> typically takes place outside of the meeting.
>
> My practice when proposing consensus items, especially when they involve
> spending money, is to make a good faith effort to get broad feedback and
> revise proposals to address concerns and clarify specific details. Whether
> or not someone is physically present at the meeting is not really pertinent.
>
> I respect the goal of this proposal and look forward to working on
> repairing the elevator with funds already set aside. As far as immediately
> allocating additional money from the general fund to the elevator repair
> fund, I do not believe we have a true consensus on that decision, as
> reflected by the long conversations on -discuss.
>
> Best,
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Revolt <revoltrightnow at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The "large C" consensus item that I proposed at the Noisebridge
> > meeting on 10/10/2017 with consensus reached on 10/17/17 was to
> > allocate a minimum of $400 per year from the Noisebridge general fund
> > towards elevator repairs.  This can be verified by all the people
> > present who were 100% in support of this item (as far as I know, no
> > one spoke out against it and many spoke up in support).
> >
> > Any money available beyond that is great.  I am glad that the DBI is
> > requiring NB to spend money ($200) for ADA access, but this does not
> > necessarily have to go to the elevator.
> >
> > The money that Phillip is planning to donate ($720) to be matched by
> > the equipment fund ($720) is not yet available and is a separate issue
> > to this consensus item.
> >
> > Hopefully that offers some clarification.  If anyone has any other
> > questions or was at the meetings and feels this is inaccurate, please
> > let us know.
> >
> > -Zach
> >
> >> On 10/19/17, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Another interpretation: The proposal says at least $400 should be
> spent, but
> >> we can spend more if there are more funds available. Since we have $200
> in
> >> the fund already, $720 more incoming, and $920 in matching grants
> available
> >> from the equipment fund, we could spend $1,840 on elevator repair this
> year.
> >> This is also just my read on it and would want to have a sense of other
> >> people’s thoughts.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:04 PM, kprichard <kprichard at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi John,
> >>>
> >>> I am only aware of the 2017-10-10 meeting notes writeup-
> >>>
> >>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2017_10_10#Elevat
> or_Repair_Fund
> >>>
> >>> Others may be aware of another version.
> >>>
> >>> Kevin
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:51 PM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Can someone link to the actual text of the consensus proposal?
> >>>>
> >>>> John
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:32 PM, kprichard <kprichard at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Greetings, NB-
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A meeting has occurred.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Most notable, Zach's consensus item proposal from last week, of
> creating
> >>>>> a set-aside for elevator repair from the general fund, was read again
> >>>>> and has gone into effect without objection.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Meeting Summary-
> >>>>>  *   Announcements: 2017-10-30: Google "Playcrafting" game dev expo;
> >>>>> ADA compliance floor markings added; City College is adding maker
> >>>>> spaces
> >>>>>  *   Finances: we have 9 months rent in the bank
> >>>>>  *   New members: open apps: Nicole (3rd week), Merlin (4th week;
> >>>>> deferred: not present)
> >>>>>  *   New philanthropists: open apps: Kelly A (1st week)
> >>>>>  *   Consensus Items: Zach's proposal to allocate general funds for
> >>>>> elevator repair was consensed ($400 to start)
> >>>>>  *   Discussion Items: (none)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2017_10_17
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Kevin
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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