<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I'd be interested to participate in this planning session - I've done a lot of teaching before, but never in this kind of environment, so I'm not sure how much I'd be able to contribute.&nbsp;I could make it at 6:30 tomorrow, but wouldn't want someone else to miss it on my account (see aforementioned caveat).</div><div><br></div><div>Hoping this doesn't matter, but I'm not a noisebridge member (yet!) -- however I have been by 83c a few times at this point and you seem like excellent people!</div><div><br></div><div>J.D.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 29, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Mitch Altman wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">Yay!<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>The "proposal" at this point&nbsp;is only a collection of thoughts.&nbsp; Do you have something more complete already?&nbsp; Should we (everyone interested in participating) get together&nbsp;to talk in person and put an outline together?<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>I'm super busy getting four projects together this week (!) but my schedule is almost all flexible, and I can make time whenever is good for others.<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>I'll make two suggestions for a time/place to get together:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;Monday (tomorrow) at 3pm at Noisebridge<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Monday (tomorrow) at 6:30pm at Noisebridge<br>If anyone interested can/can't make either of the above, please say so and/or suggest another place/time.<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>Best,<br>&nbsp;<br>Mitch.<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br><br>&nbsp;<br>-----------------------<br>&nbsp;<br>&gt; Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:28:01 -0700<br>&gt; From:<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com">michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com</a><br>&gt; To:<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:maltman23@hotmail.com">maltman23@hotmail.com</a><br>&gt; CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:danielast@gmail.com">danielast@gmail.com</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>&gt; Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] FW: [Fwd: FW from Eva Meyers: ExCEL Request for Proposals 2009-2010]<br>&gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; Talked it over with my partner at TMTM, and we would love to<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; collaborate. Thanks for asking!<br>&gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; At what stage is the proposal?<br>&gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; Michael<br>&gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; Mitch Altman wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Yeah, Michael, if it's cool by you to collaborate, then I'd love to do<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; that. I enjoyed working together with you at ETech and at the school<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; with the MAKE Mobile. I'd like to do more. :)<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; Let me know your thoughts.<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; Best,<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; Mitch.<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:23:56 -0700<br>&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] FW: [Fwd: FW from Eva Meyers: ExCEL<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; Request for Proposals 2009-2010]<br>&gt; &gt; From:<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:danielast@gmail.com">danielast@gmail.com</a><br>&gt; &gt; To:<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com">michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com</a><br>&gt; &gt; CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:maltman23@hotmail.com">maltman23@hotmail.com</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; I think that is great that you are able to collaborate! As I told<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; Mitch, I wish I could do that too but I cannot work for free! I am happy<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; to give input and to have teaching discussions!<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; However my programs are very different than what you guys do, so i<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; don't think that duplication or cross overs is a problem in my case.<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; D<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Michael Shiloh<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com">michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com">mailto:michaelshiloh1010@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; Mitch Altman wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; I wouldn't want you to unsubscribe, Michael.<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; Thanks!<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; Is there some way we can collaborate on what we're bidding?<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; Yeah, I was wondering that myself. I guess my default behavior is to<br>&gt; &gt; bother other people as little as possible, to see what they are<br>&gt; &gt; doing, and then do something else.<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; We can either collaborate on the bid, or at the very least,<br>&gt; &gt; coordinate our bids so that we avoid duplication.<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; I'm a little torn - since teaching is now my only income, I do feel<br>&gt; &gt; a need to develop our own teaching reputation and to publicize the<br>&gt; &gt; name of our organization (Teach me to make) as much as possible. On<br>&gt; &gt; the other hand, by pooling our resources, we probably end up with a<br>&gt; &gt; whole that is greater than the sum of the parts.<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; On the other-other hand, collaboration is ethically and socially of<br>&gt; &gt; higher value. It's just the right thing to do. So I think I'd rather<br>&gt; &gt; go this way.<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; Let me think on this a minute to make sure I haven't overlooked<br>&gt; &gt; anything.<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; Michael<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</a><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt;<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; --<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.danielast.com">www.danielast.com</a> &lt;<a href="http://www.danielast.com/">http://www.danielast.com/</a>&gt;<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listin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