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    Jake,<br>
    What, properly, is Buddhism?<br>
    -Claudia<br>
    On 7/18/2011 4:05 PM, Christina Olson wrote:
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cite="mid:CAOPCYrcYiEBLdR=rgLb=vJS+xmSiBJVgbL6Zg0R1_vgSKgx05w@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">The most offensive aspect of this whole thing is that
      Buddhism is getting practiced as a religion.
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Jacob
          Appelbaum <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:jacob@appelbaum.net">jacob@appelbaum.net</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div class="im">On 07/18/2011 06:16 PM, Jason Dusek wrote:<br>
              &gt; On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 21:26, Michael C. Toren &lt;<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mct@toren.net">mct@toren.net</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
              &gt;&gt; On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:35:30AM -0700, Rameen
              wrote:<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt; It seems like the main issue is that the
              Church class was<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt; being rearranged.<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; No.<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; The main issue, for many people, was that the
              shrine was being<br>
              &gt;&gt; used in a religious context.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; That this is an issue is a concern of mine. If it
              was, so what?<br>
              &gt; A space that can accept so many other things can not
              accept the<br>
              &gt; exercize of the Buddhist religion? I don't see on
              what basis we<br>
              &gt; can do that. Personal dislike of religion?<br>
              &gt;<br>
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            The "so what" is that some people are not comfortable with
            it -<br>
            especially given the example of "how" it was done. You seem
            to<br>
            understand the latter but take issue with people taking
            issue in the<br>
            former case. Huh.<br>
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              &gt; The Rinpoche is not representative of organized
              religion in any<br>
              &gt; sense; by that I mean, there is no lineage of Asian
              Buddhism to<br>
              &gt; which he can be assigned, despite his adoption of the
              manner and<br>
              &gt; titles of a few different lineages. There is thus no
              real<br>
              &gt; exercize of religion here; so what should we call it?<br>
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            The issue is not a matter of organisation. It does not
            matter if you<br>
            accept their "faith" or "practice " or whatever you'd like
            to call it.<br>
            <br>
            Rinpoche's actions sound annoying and incompatible with
            Noisebridge. It<br>
            appears that his conflict resolution skills are also
            incompatible with<br>
            Noisebridge. Perhaps I'm mistaken?<br>
            <br>
            Obviously people aren't happy with the Rinpoche's
            appropriation of the<br>
            space for whatever spiritual or non-spiritual quest he's
            undertaken.<br>
            <br>
            ( His crazy faith looks just as crazy as every other from
            where I'm<br>
            sitting. )<br>
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            All the best,<br>
            Jake<br>
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