REAL TALK!!!<br clear="all"><br>nick<br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:frantisekapfelbeck@gmail.com" target="_blank">frantisekapfelbeck@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi to all:<div><br></div><div>One of the things I have learned while in Korea that being blunt is perfectly natural. I think Cynthia needs that straight talk that has been going around.</div>

<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div>-- <br>Sincerely,  <div><br>
</div><div>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck </div><div><br></div><div>biotechnologist&amp;kvasir and hacker </div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org/" target="_blank">http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</a> </div>


<div><br></div><div>&quot;There is no way to peace, peace is the way.&quot; Ghandi</div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Justin Doerr <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:justinsfca@yahoo.com" target="_blank">justinsfca@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit"><p>Why I would love to Ron, but I can&#39;t. You might place me under citizen&#39;s arrest for trespassing remember?<br>



And besides all my hacking related questions and answers to them I get from people off the list and on other forums. I keep all boring stuff off the discuss list and all drama related material on the discuss list. It&#39;s more entertaining that way. And besides I think it&#39;s a justified post. We don&#39;t need to be calling the police and swarming people. It&#39;s not like she&#39;s Pablo Escobar and we need to do a drug raid.</p>



<p>This whole issue is stupid. And I for one am going to say something about it. I don&#39;t care if it offends anyone. I wasn&#39;t put on this planet to sugar coat things and say only things that make people feel comfortable and warm and fuzzy inside. I&#39;m real.<br>


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                            Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] As much as I think Cynthia is crazy, I still find the situation unethical and stupid.                            <br>
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                                        <td valign="top" style="font:inherit">Who cares.  Noisebridge is for hacking.  Stop causing drama and let&#39;s get back to that.  I suggest everyone on this thread attends a meeting to understand what noisebridge is about(hacking not drama).<br>


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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Ever Falling <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow">everfalling@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div>&gt; <span>GETTING THE POLICE INVOLVED IN A HACKERSPACE IS ONLY GOING TO DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD!!! When you call the po-pos they fill out reports in their little memo pads AND DOCUMENT THEM!!!</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12pt;white-space:pre-wrap">        </span><span> </span><div>




<span style="font-size:12pt">That means that when you get the police involved more often, the likelihood of them wanting to probe an investigation on this place </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-style:italic">increases!!! </span></div>




<div><span style="font-size:12pt;font-style:italic"><br></span></div></div><div><font color="#222222" face="&#39;times new roman&#39;, &#39;new york&#39;, times, serif" size="3">I wonder how many other hackerspaces have such an extreme distrust of the police. I think if we were a little more open about Noisebridge and what it does there wouldn&#39;t need to be such a worry about what they think of us. As it is all they ever see is nutters having to be expelled from the premises. If we&#39;re gonna continue to treat the space like a treehouse with a sign that says &#39;no cops allowed&#39; then it&#39;ll be no wonder if they start thinking maybe we&#39;re doing some weird shit. WHAT <i>IS </i>YOUR FASCINATION WITH MY FORBIDDEN CLOSET OF MYSTERY?</font></div>



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Hi to all:<div><br></div><div><div>As a member of the community I think that the decision to remove her might have been the best idea.</div><div><br></div><div>Another friend of mine agrees on that remark.<span><font color="#888888"><br>





<br></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888">-- <br>Sincerely,  <div><br></div><div>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck </div><div><br></div><div>biotechnologist&amp;kvasir and hacker </div><div><br></div>
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<div><br></div><div>&quot;There is no way to peace, peace is the way.&quot; Ghandi</div></font></span><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Andy Isaacson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow">adi@hexapodia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>





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&gt; Justin, please stop trying to Friend me on  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.xtube.com/user_favorite_videos.php?u=JustinSFCA" target="_blank">http://www.xtube.com/user_favorite_videos.php?u=JustinSFCA</a><br>
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</div>I realize it&#39;s &quot;fun&quot; to pwn Justin, but creating accounts in the name of<br>
other people isn&#39;t awesome.  Or alternatively (and much less likely)<br>
it&#39;s also not awesome to publish a link of two accounts belonging to<br>
someone, against their wishes.<br>
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It&#39;s especially unkind to do this because I blocked Justin from posting<br>
to the list (again), and I&#39;d feel compelled to unblock him if he<br>
actually has a legitimate complaint with your behavior and needed to be<br>
able to defend himself in the same forum.<br>
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So, please don&#39;t do that again.<br>
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-andy<br>
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