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<br><div><div>On Apr 16, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Sweet Tea Dorminy <<a href="mailto:sweettea@MIT.EDU">sweettea@MIT.EDU</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
  
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    <font face="URW Palladio L">I've been watching this discussion for a
      while from quite far away, and I agree that a mural full of proper
      Noisebridge Excellence would be a excellent idea. I should not,
      for context, that the Hacking Ethics mural is nearly worshipped;
      everyone who wishes to be a Hacker is customarily taken to the
      Ethics first and made to read them in detail, attempting to cement
      True Hacking Ethics in everyone who ever hacks at all. On the
      other hand, there's also some aura around the Ethics, saying that
      "Hacking is illegal, but if you get caught and are following the
      ethics, you'll be punished less." I'm not sure such a aura can be
      easily replicated when participating at Noisebridge is not
      illegal.<br>
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      I would propose, as a potential solution for sleepers making the
      space less habitable for those awake, something I've seen
      implemented with some success: "You  can nap here, but everyone
      else is duty-bound to completely ignore you, and are duty-bound to
      be as loud as if you were awake, and you are duty-bound not to
      complain about noise because the purpose of the space is primarily
      not sleeping." I don't know if this is something currently
      implemented, having never attempted to sleep at nb, but I do
      believe it fits 'be excellent to each other'.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/16/2013 01:54 PM, Ken M. Haggerty
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        <div>Thanks, Reverend Mik. <b><u>This is really unacceptable.</u></b></div>
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        <div>I think it would do us some good to establish set of <b><u>"Hacker
              ethics"</u></b> very much in line with what is at MIT:</div>
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        <div>These <b><u>guidelines</u></b> could be posted in LARGE
          LETTERS as a mural as you enter the space so that it is made
          clear what is expected of individuals whom are given the <b><u>privilege</u></b>
          to enjoy Noisebridge and the community we as a whole have
          created.</div>
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        <div>The idea of a <b><u>non-binding</u></b> set of <b><u>protocols</u></b>
          would be to establish a normalization of behavior (a phrase I
          am sure will bother more than a few people).</div>
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          One of the key things I have learned thus far in life is that
          <b><u>you really cannot assume anything of anyone</u></b>,
          including "standards" of behavior; not because "people are
          bad," but because...</div>
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        <div style=""> People come from all sorts of backgrounds and
          experiences, and the one experience that taught you not to
          pick your nose may not have happened to someone else.</div>
        <div style=""> We are a product of the environment with which
          we surround ourselves.</div>
        <div style=""> Everything each of us knows is a result of an
          external input being interpretted by an internal process, and
          we each have varying reactions to external inputs.</div>
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        <div style="">Those who are generally active in these
          discussions are likely not those who are treating the space
          poorly, and so these email threads are <b><u>preaching to the
              choir</u></b> + the few "trolls" who, to a limited extent,
          do us a service by engaging debate (and then usually things
          fall to pieces...).</div>
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        <div style=""><u style="font-weight:bold">The challenge then is
            in determining what characteristics of Noisebridge are
            indeed are part of our proud character and which are merely
            correlational and/or detrimental and should be changed.</u></div>
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        <div style="">I may or may not be at tonight's meeting as I am
          leaving for NYC tomorrow for a week.</div>
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        <div style="">-Ken</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:42 AM,
          Mitchel McAllister <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:xonimmortal@yahoo.com" target="_blank">xonimmortal@yahoo.com</a>></span>
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                    dogs in the space last night that I know of.<br>
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                    However, it was brought to my attention early this
                    morning that there have been bottles and other
                    containers full of urine found in hidden places in
                    the space. It doesn't make sense to me either.
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                      - Reverend Mik McAllister<br>
                      <hr>"You can see the summit but you can't reach it<br>
                      Its the last piece of the puzzle but you just
                      can't make it fit<br>
                      Doctor says you're cured but you still feel the
                      pain<br>
                      Aspirations in the clouds but your hopes go down
                      the drain"<br>
                       - Howard Jones, "No One Is To Blame"<br>
                      <hr>Purveyor of Subversive Fiction<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.prismandink.com/" target="_blank">http://www.prismandink.com</a><br>
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                    --- On <b>Tue, 4/16/13, jarrod hicks <i><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hicksu@gmail.com" target="_blank">hicksu@gmail.com</a>></i></b>
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                      From: jarrod hicks <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hicksu@gmail.com" target="_blank">hicksu@gmail.com</a>><br>
                      Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Feces and Urine in
                      the shop<br>
                      To: "NoiseBridge Discuss" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net" target="_blank">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a>><br>
                      Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 10:33 AM
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                          <div dir="ltr">I arrived at Noisebridge about
                            15 minutes ago to get some work done. There
                            was a large pile of feces next to the table
                            saw and a drying puddle of urine next to the
                            drill press. I have cleaned up the feces and
                            am in the process of drying, sweeping, and
                            cleaning up the urine.
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                              <div>This is the second time within the
                                last week that there has been feces in
                                the shop, and more than the second time
                                that I have found urine in the space.</div>
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