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    Hi Alison!<br>
    <br>
    Was wondering if you had an update on the cost of the MFI program? I
    was under the impression you had to include Apple's special
    authorization chip on your board to be part of it? Or have they
    changed that requirement?<br>
    <br>
    Also, just wanted to let anyone considering the BlueGiga BLE112
    know: Broadcom has just come out with a Bluetooth LE module, <a
      href="http://community.broadcom.com/community/wiced-smart">the
      BCM20732S</a>, that's $10 less than the BlueGiga. Their SDK is
    still a little early in development, but the price difference was
    too good to pass up. We've switched to using it at DrumPants and
    it's actually faster than the BlueGiga according to our initial
    tests.<br>
    <br>
    Fun times!<br>
    <br>
    Tyler<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/13/14 3:17 PM, Alison Lewis wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hope this discussion helped some others. Thanks
        everyone! </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Alison
          Lewis <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:a@iheartswitch.com" target="_blank">a@iheartswitch.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">We're doing some heavy image loading and the
              BLE didn't have the throughput we needed. But this may be
              solved later with some improved engineering on the app
              side; I think a lot can be solved with clever
              compression. 
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              <div>Here is an update on the MFI stuff. We got our
                license. Took a little bit, but it was not as hard as
                you think. Yea! It was free so far and took about 3
                weeks! - Alison
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:58
                    PM, Tyler Freeman <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:tyler@odbol.com" target="_blank">tyler@odbol.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Coming in
                        to this rather late, but depending on your
                        needs, you should definitely consider going with
                        Bluetooth LE. It doesn't have as much
                        throughput, but is actually faster at connecting
                        and sending small packets of data (the whole
                        connect/send/disconnect process takes about 3ms,
                        compared to 200-500ms on classic Bluetooth). <br>
                        <br>
                        I'd recommend the BlueGiga BLE112: it offers a
                        very robust connection to iOS and is really easy
                        to set up. You can probably get it and have it
                        working in iOS within a day (compared to MFI
                        certification process which can take months and
                        $$$$$). <br>
                        <br>
                        Of course, if you're trying to stream lots of
                        data like a video or audio stream, BLE is not
                        for you.<br>
                        <br>
                        -Tyelr
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                          <div><br>
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                            <br>
                            <div>On 12/20/13 2:40 PM, Anders Nelson
                              wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">Derp, I forgot to mention
                                everything MFI requires a considerable
                                investment (time or money) in firmware.
                                Microchip Technology offers a stack
                                here:
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                                <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.microchip.com/pagehandler/en-us/technology/smartphoneaccessory/tools/home.html"
                                    target="_blank">http://www.microchip.com/pagehandler/en-us/technology/smartphoneaccessory/tools/home.html</a><br>
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                                <div>It provides an excellent API and is
                                  the lowest cost option you'll likely
                                  find.</div>
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                                <div>--<br>
                                  Anders Nelson<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="tel:%2B1%20%28517%29%20775-6129"
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                                    (517) 775-6129</a><br>
                                  <br>
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://www.erogear.com"
                                    target="_blank">www.erogear.com</a></div>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 20,
                                  2013 at 2:37 PM, Anders Nelson <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:anders.k.nelson@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">anders.k.nelson@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Hi Alison,
                                      <div><br>
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                                      <div>I handled the MFI program at
                                        my previous job, so here's how
                                        it works:</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>-Some MFI-enabled radio
                                        manufacturers embed the
                                        Apple-specific authentication
                                        chip into their module and I
                                        believe you can buy said module
                                        without having to go through
                                        Apple's MFI certification.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>-In order to use any IAP
                                        commands outside of simple
                                        remote controls
                                        (play/pause/prev/next/etc.) your
                                        hardware accessory must have an
                                        MFI authentication chip onboard.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>-Bluetooth classic and dock
                                        connector communication (via IAP
                                        or the accessory framework) both
                                        require an MFI chip. BTLE does <i>not</i> require
                                        an MFI chip.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>-Bluetooth classic
                                        communication is relatively fast
                                        so I've heard. The dock
                                        connector can only push 5-7kB
                                        per second.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>I suggest using BTLE to get
                                        around the fruity bits.</div>
                                      <div><br>
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                                      <div>=]</div>
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                                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br
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                                      <div>--<br>
                                        Anders Nelson<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="tel:%2B1%20%28517%29%20775-6129"
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                                          target="_blank">+1 (517)
                                          775-6129</a><br>
                                        <br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://www.erogear.com"
                                          target="_blank">www.erogear.com</a></div>
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                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:09
                                            PM, Alison Lewis <span
                                              dir="ltr"><<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:a@iheartswitch.com"
                                                target="_blank">a@iheartswitch.com</a>></span>
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                                              <div dir="ltr">Thanks
                                                Eden. Thanks thats only
                                                on LE. We've got an old
                                                chip. Good info for the
                                                future!!! - A</div>
                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                                                  <div>On Fri, Dec 20,
                                                    2013 at 12:12 PM,
                                                    Eden Sherry <span
                                                      dir="ltr"><<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:e@eden2.com" target="_blank">e@eden2.com</a>></span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
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                                                    <div>There are no
                                                      Apple restrictions
                                                      on the type of BLE
                                                      devices apps can
                                                      connect to, and no
                                                      Apple
                                                      certification to
                                                      go through.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      If you are having
                                                      issues seeing or
                                                      connecting to your
                                                      device, it is a
                                                      problem with the
                                                      device itself or
                                                      your iOS code.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      LightBlue is a
                                                      useful app to
                                                      sanity-check on
                                                      the phone side. If
                                                      your device is
                                                      advertising
                                                      correctly, it
                                                      should appear in
                                                      that app.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Eden<br>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          > On Dec
                                                          20, 2013, at
                                                          12:00 PM,
                                                          Alison Lewis
                                                          <<a
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href="mailto:a@iheartswitch.com" target="_blank">a@iheartswitch.com</a>>

                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          ><br>
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                                                          <div> > Hi
                                                          guys/gals,<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > Anyone
                                                          with BlueGiga
                                                          experience and
                                                          connecting
                                                          through iOS
                                                          devices? We
                                                          have a
                                                          BlueGiga and
                                                          no Apple
                                                          activation
                                                          chip. Have
                                                          some
                                                          questions,
                                                          here's the
                                                          first two:<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > Does the
                                                          company who
                                                          put on a
                                                          BlueGiga chip
                                                          need some sort
                                                          of apple chip
                                                          too?<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > Does the
                                                          company who
                                                          put on the
                                                          BlueGiga chip
                                                          need to go
                                                          through the
                                                          MFI program?
                                                          How fast can
                                                          you get
                                                          through it?<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > Is there
                                                          any work
                                                          around this
                                                          issue that
                                                          people have
                                                          dealt with
                                                          before?<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > Love to
                                                          talk to
                                                          someone that's
                                                          been through
                                                          this.<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > Gracias!
                                                            - Alison<br>
                                                          ><br>
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