[Rack] webserver access

Rubin Abdi rubin at starset.net
Wed Dec 29 19:09:23 PST 2010


Hi there. As a member of Noisebridge I would appreciate it if you did not setup a Diaspora server, or anything else to use inplace of the mailing list for communication for the space. Please stop before I rm -Rf /* pony. Thanks.



"Patrick Keys" <citizenkeys at gmail.com> wrote:

>(benny and Patrick both wrote this posting)
>
>On 12/29/2010 5:14 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
>> On 12/29/2010 05:05 PM, Patrick Keys wrote:
>>> benny and me started setting up a diaspora pod last night on pony.
>>> we should have it finished tonight sometime.
>>> for those interested, diaspora does not require a dedicated vm. but
>it
>>> does basically require nginx and thinn for its ruby on rails.
>>>
>>
>> You should consider a vm not because it is "required" but because
>> compartmentalization is a reasonable practice.
>>
>compartmentalization is a good idea, but where would we run the vm?
>also, pony is already pwned by everybody.
>
>>> there was also discussion with others at the meeting last night
>about
>>> setting up a forum system (like phpbb).
>>
>> Talk is cheap.
>>
>agreed - would install the phpbb myself (or an alternative forum
>system) 
>if I knew where to install it (which is why I asked).
>we could just use pony for the phpbb.
>
>
>>> the forum system would be a potential alternative for the mailing
>lists,
>>> particularly given the discussion list already has way too much
>traffic.
>>>
>>
>> Subscribe with a digest option?
>>
>digest option doesn't work very well.
>also, can't really post in threads for digest option.
>digest option doesn't solve the larger problem of too much traffic.
>
>
>>> not sure that pony is stable enough for an official diaspora pod or
>>> official noisebridge forum system.
>>>
>>
>> What does that even mean? official?
>>
>"official" in this case means "only", "preferred", and "central".
>
>
>>> what do we gotta do to get access to the "real" web server?
>>
>> Run your own web server?
>>
>why decentralize noisebridge infrastructure when the rack is mostly 
>idling all the time.
>
>> phpbb, nginx and other crap software will get your box owned quickly.
>In phpBB there are a lot of known issues regarding security and 
>basically you can solve a lot of them using a secure configuration of 
>the PHP installation. Benny is running phpBB3 installations and a lot
>of 
>other "insecure" software on his server without trouble.
>
>in terms of nginx I have to object: I'd rather trust nginx than Apache 
>even thou nginx is the newer one of both. Basically nginx is a fast 
>webserver which is used by a lot of well-known websites. Just labelling
>
>it crap because you don't know it is the wrong way to approach system 
>security.
>
>Furthermore I'd be more worried about the Diaspora security itself {the
>
>source is not of good quality as confirmed by several independent 
>audits}. Also I trust Ruby less than I do for PHP.
>
>Also: Installing Diaspora on Pony is basically the most honest thing to
>
>do: "we will publish your private data" - thus being more direct than 
>Facebook in the first place.
>
>BTW: Diaspora runs as a non-root user without sudoers access ... Same 
>with all the other components required to run it.
>
>> Good luck.
>Thanks.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Jake
>Regards,
>Benny and Patrick
>
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