[Rack] [Noisebridge-discuss] network down this afternoon, an interesting guide for people who want to help when the network goes down

Ben Kochie ben at nerp.net
Tue Jun 5 13:20:27 PDT 2012

r00ter has been replaced by bikeshed.


On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Danny O'Brien wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof at thejof.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Ben Kochie <superq at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> To me it sounds like there was a rouge dhcp server or some kind of
>>> dhcp problem going on and nothing to do with the links.
>> EIther that or some legitimate breakage or resource constraint on the Soekris.
>> It's really hard to tell what "dhcp is broken" means without doing a
>> packet capture or heavy logging from a DHCP client. And I'd much
>> rather not setup something to just log packets to look back on when
>> things are "broken", that wouldn't be very nice.
>> It's certainly possible that another host attached to the
>> Ethernet/802.11 network(s) was responding to DHCP requests and
>> poisoning people's configuration.
> This *is* possible, but I think the fact that no-one was getting any
> good DHCP values argues slightly against it.
> Just to be clear: do we still have r00ter and bikeshed? Or have these
> been smershed into just bikeshed?
> If so, could someone update
> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Network#Routers
> with the new details, cheers.
> d.
>> This is indeed blockable, but only up to the point where managed
>> switches end. The Juniper, and some of the Cisco switches can perform
>> this filtering, but the 48-port Linksys or the scattering of dumb
>> switches and hubs out and about will not be able to single-out
>> offenders.
>> Not sure about the 802.11 case. I suppose it's possible with client
>> isolation on the AP. The Ubiquiti AP probably can't, but upstream from
>> it we can pick off those ports.
>>> One good way we can fix this is to put dhcp server controls at the
>>> switch and wifi network level.  I don't know if the equipment we have
>>> is capable of doing this. :/
>> I'll see if I can pick out what will and wont do it.
>> --j
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