[Rack] Stallion/pony

Ben Kochie ben at nerp.net
Sun Feb 16 20:00:38 UTC 2014


200W = 1.7MWh = $300 per year.

My 6 drive sandy bridge machine is 70W at idle.

Maybe worth some $ to reduce long term cost.

On February 16, 2014 8:55:30 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>Spot on.  200 watts.   Is it worth it though since we are not buying
>anything?
>
>
>On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> You are right.  Let me see if I can find the kill o watt.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The E5405 (harpertown), if I remember correctly uses FB-DIMMs. I
>thought
>>> we wanted to reduce the power use. These will likely be 200+W
>machines.
>>> Unfortunately E-waste.
>>>
>>>
>>> On February 16, 2014 8:35:14 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni
><setient at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So this has been actually solved with 0 dollars.  Kellan Jacobs
>donated
>>>> some servers to noisebridge.  One was a nice fancy Xeon E5405 with
>8gb of
>>>> ram and 4x 2tb hd's.  I was going to setup a raid 1 mirror with the
>other
>>>> two drives as spares (I do not know how good they are).  What do
>you all
>>>> think?  Also would anyone mind debian on it or should we have
>something
>>>> else on it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Ronald Cotoni
><setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How much do we wanna spend?  I have a feeling stallion could use
>some
>>>>> new drives as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Ronald Cotoni
><setient at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Totally valid.   I was trying to go cheap and low power for cost
>>>>>> reasons.  Maybe we would not need IPMI if we could get a select
>team to
>>>>>> actually go to the space, perhaps even monitor that it is up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2014 8:20 AM, "Ben Kochie" <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There were two reason I was suggesting the Supermicro+Xeon.
>>>>>>> * ECC RAM (would be more stable)
>>>>>>> * IPMI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For a very long time we've had issues where things were broken
>for
>>>>>>> weeks, and nobody in the space seems capable of plugging in a
>VGA cable
>>>>>>> anymore. Having IPMI would let us debug boot issues from remote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think most of the boards you suggested support VM, just want
>to
>>>>>>> make sure we keep VM support in any replacement option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -ben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Doh.   I suck at mail.
>>>>>>>> I was thinking something significantly cheaper and lower power.
>>>>>>>> More like one of those mini it
>>>>>>>> boards with 16 gigabytes of ram and spending more like 80 but
>on the
>>>>>>>> board and processor.   I
>>>>>>>> saw some nice celery 1037u boards that have TV 2 cores and usb
>>>>>>>> 3.0.   They also have a pic
>>>>>>>> express card.   I have even seen some with dual ethernet.  
>There
>>>>>>>> are some similar AMD fusion
>>>>>>>> boards too.  The whole machine would hopefully have a TDP of
>under
>>>>>>>> 100 watts even when
>>>>>>>> loaded.    What do you all think?  Something
>>>>>>>> like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-679
>but
>>>>>>>> with usb 3.0 and a pci
>>>>>>>> express slot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net>
>wrote:
>>>>>>>>       There is a 2U case on my member shelf that was destined
>to
>>>>>>>> become the new stallion.
>>>>>>>>        It has a over-powered 2 CPU motherboard I was planning
>to
>>>>>>>> replace with somehting
>>>>>>>>       less hungry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?
>>>>>>>> ItemList=Combo.1519387
>>>>>>>>       Combo Deal: $340
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Xeon E3-1220V3 Haswell 3.1GHz 4-core
>>>>>>>>       http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=
>>>>>>>> N82E16819116907
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Supermicro MBD-X10SLM-F-O - uATX
>>>>>>>>       http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=
>>>>>>>> N82E16813182820
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       2x 8G DDR3 ECC (un-buff) $210
>>>>>>>>       http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=
>>>>>>>> N82E16820148770
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       1U heatsink (Supermicro) $22
>>>>>>>>       http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=
>>>>>>>> N82E16816101298
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Total: $572
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       -ben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Casey Callendrello wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             The closet is clear, but I'm pretty sure Stallion
>has
>>>>>>>> thrown off its
>>>>>>>>             mortal coil. The last time
>>>>>>>>             I poked at it, one of the NICs was bad, the
>graphics
>>>>>>>> card was flaky, and
>>>>>>>>             (worst of all) the lvm
>>>>>>>>             volume for Pony is failing to mount.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             I think it's time we pour one out for our dead
>homies
>>>>>>>> and throw in a
>>>>>>>>             low-power replacement.
>>>>>>>>             --Casey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             On 2/11/14, 11:56 PM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>                   I should also add that I'm happy to help get
>it
>>>>>>>> healthy again, but
>>>>>>>>             as a non-regular
>>>>>>>>                   user busy with my life elsewhere, I haven't
>been
>>>>>>>> super motivated
>>>>>>>>             to dive in and fix
>>>>>>>>                   it.
>>>>>>>>             Maybe start with a working monitor/keyboard on
>stallion?
>>>>>>>> Last I was
>>>>>>>>             there to try and fix
>>>>>>>>             it, I couldn't reach the back of Susan the Rack
>(there
>>>>>>>> was a giant 40+U
>>>>>>>>             4-poster wedged
>>>>>>>>             into the other side of that closet)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Jonathan Lassoff
><
>>>>>>>> jof at thejof.com>
>>>>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>>>>                   Pony has been offline for a long time. I can
>no
>>>>>>>> longer reach it
>>>>>>>>             from remote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Ronald Cotoni <
>>>>>>>> setient at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>>>>                   I heard that it is having some issues and
>most of
>>>>>>>> the people who
>>>>>>>>             were
>>>>>>>>                   involved with it this.  I also just saw a
>message
>>>>>>>> about the
>>>>>>>>                   next_meeting.py that ran on it which is no
>longer
>>>>>>>> running.  Is
>>>>>>>>             there any
>>>>>>>>                   assistance needed getting it stable?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             --
>>>>>>>>             Ronald Cotoni Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>> Ronald Cotoni
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