[Rack] Stallion/pony

John Ellis neurofog at gmail.com
Sun Feb 16 20:05:37 UTC 2014


Ronald,

I'm all for saving energy, but perfection is the enemy of good.
$300/yr for powering a main server isn't excessive.

If people really do think 200W is excessive and should be ewaste, I
can find a good home for it :)

Cheers!
John

On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
> 200W = 1.7MWh = $300 per year.
>
> My 6 drive sandy bridge machine is 70W at idle.
>
> Maybe worth some $ to reduce long term cost.
>
>
> On February 16, 2014 8:55:30 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Spot on.  200 watts.   Is it worth it though since we are not buying
>> anything?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> You are right.  Let me see if I can find the kill o watt.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The E5405 (harpertown), if I remember correctly uses FB-DIMMs. I thought
>>>> we wanted to reduce the power use. These will likely be 200+W machines.
>>>> Unfortunately E-waste.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On February 16, 2014 8:35:14 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So this has been actually solved with 0 dollars.  Kellan Jacobs donated
>>>>> some servers to noisebridge.  One was a nice fancy Xeon E5405 with 8gb of
>>>>> ram and 4x 2tb hd's.  I was going to setup a raid 1 mirror with the other
>>>>> two drives as spares (I do not know how good they are).  What do you all
>>>>> think?  Also would anyone mind debian on it or should we have something else
>>>>> on it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How much do we wanna spend?  I have a feeling stallion could use some
>>>>>> new drives as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Totally valid.   I was trying to go cheap and low power for cost
>>>>>>> reasons.  Maybe we would not need IPMI if we could get a select team to
>>>>>>> actually go to the space, perhaps even monitor that it is up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2014 8:20 AM, "Ben Kochie" <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There were two reason I was suggesting the Supermicro+Xeon.
>>>>>>>> * ECC RAM (would be more stable)
>>>>>>>> * IPMI
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For a very long time we've had issues where things were broken for
>>>>>>>> weeks, and nobody in the space seems capable of plugging in a VGA cable
>>>>>>>> anymore. Having IPMI would let us debug boot issues from remote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think most of the boards you suggested support VM, just want to
>>>>>>>> make sure we keep VM support in any replacement option.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -ben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doh.   I suck at mail.
>>>>>>>>> I was thinking something significantly cheaper and lower power.
>>>>>>>>> More like one of those mini it
>>>>>>>>> boards with 16 gigabytes of ram and spending more like 80 but on
>>>>>>>>> the board and processor.   I
>>>>>>>>> saw some nice celery 1037u boards that have TV 2 cores and usb 3.0.
>>>>>>>>> They also have a pic
>>>>>>>>> express card.   I have even seen some with dual ethernet.   There
>>>>>>>>> are some similar AMD fusion
>>>>>>>>> boards too.  The whole machine would hopefully have a TDP of under
>>>>>>>>> 100 watts even when
>>>>>>>>> loaded.    What do you all think?  Something
>>>>>>>>> like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-679 but
>>>>>>>>> with usb 3.0 and a pci
>>>>>>>>> express slot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>       There is a 2U case on my member shelf that was destined to
>>>>>>>>> become the new stallion.
>>>>>>>>>        It has a over-powered 2 CPU motherboard I was planning to
>>>>>>>>> replace with somehting
>>>>>>>>>       less hungry.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1519387
>>>>>>>>>       Combo Deal: $340
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       Xeon E3-1220V3 Haswell 3.1GHz 4-core
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       Supermicro MBD-X10SLM-F-O - uATX
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182820
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       2x 8G DDR3 ECC (un-buff) $210
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148770
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       1U heatsink (Supermicro) $22
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101298
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       Total: $572
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       -ben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Casey Callendrello wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             The closet is clear, but I'm pretty sure Stallion has
>>>>>>>>> thrown off its
>>>>>>>>>             mortal coil. The last time
>>>>>>>>>             I poked at it, one of the NICs was bad, the graphics
>>>>>>>>> card was flaky, and
>>>>>>>>>             (worst of all) the lvm
>>>>>>>>>             volume for Pony is failing to mount.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             I think it's time we pour one out for our dead homies
>>>>>>>>> and throw in a
>>>>>>>>>             low-power replacement.
>>>>>>>>>             --Casey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             On 2/11/14, 11:56 PM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                   I should also add that I'm happy to help get it
>>>>>>>>> healthy again, but
>>>>>>>>>             as a non-regular
>>>>>>>>>                   user busy with my life elsewhere, I haven't been
>>>>>>>>> super motivated
>>>>>>>>>             to dive in and fix
>>>>>>>>>                   it.
>>>>>>>>>             Maybe start with a working monitor/keyboard on
>>>>>>>>> stallion? Last I was
>>>>>>>>>             there to try and fix
>>>>>>>>>             it, I couldn't reach the back of Susan the Rack (there
>>>>>>>>> was a giant 40+U
>>>>>>>>>             4-poster wedged
>>>>>>>>>             into the other side of that closet)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Jonathan Lassoff
>>>>>>>>> <jof at thejof.com>
>>>>>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                   Pony has been offline for a long time. I can no
>>>>>>>>> longer reach it
>>>>>>>>>             from remote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Ronald Cotoni
>>>>>>>>> <setient at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                   I heard that it is having some issues and most of
>>>>>>>>> the people who
>>>>>>>>>             were
>>>>>>>>>                   involved with it this.  I also just saw a message
>>>>>>>>> about the
>>>>>>>>>                   next_meeting.py that ran on it which is no longer
>>>>>>>>> running.  Is
>>>>>>>>>             there any
>>>>>>>>>                   assistance needed getting it stable?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             --
>>>>>>>>>             Ronald Cotoni Systems Engineer
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