[Rack] Stallion/pony

Ronald Cotoni setient at gmail.com
Sun Feb 16 20:09:28 UTC 2014


We did find a good home!  We can use it for other things ( as long as we
don't leave it on all the time).  I am going to be starting a sysadmin
class at noisebridge and it would make an ideal machine for teaching since
it has VT and a bunch of storage.   It would be great for the students to
setup Vagrant, Openstack and other things on from scratch on a regular
basis.


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:05 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ronald,
>
> I'm all for saving energy, but perfection is the enemy of good.
> $300/yr for powering a main server isn't excessive.
>
> If people really do think 200W is excessive and should be ewaste, I
> can find a good home for it :)
>
> Cheers!
> John
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
> > 200W = 1.7MWh = $300 per year.
> >
> > My 6 drive sandy bridge machine is 70W at idle.
> >
> > Maybe worth some $ to reduce long term cost.
> >
> >
> > On February 16, 2014 8:55:30 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Spot on.  200 watts.   Is it worth it though since we are not buying
> >> anything?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You are right.  Let me see if I can find the kill o watt.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The E5405 (harpertown), if I remember correctly uses FB-DIMMs. I
> thought
> >>>> we wanted to reduce the power use. These will likely be 200+W
> machines.
> >>>> Unfortunately E-waste.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On February 16, 2014 8:35:14 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So this has been actually solved with 0 dollars.  Kellan Jacobs
> donated
> >>>>> some servers to noisebridge.  One was a nice fancy Xeon E5405 with
> 8gb of
> >>>>> ram and 4x 2tb hd's.  I was going to setup a raid 1 mirror with the
> other
> >>>>> two drives as spares (I do not know how good they are).  What do you
> all
> >>>>> think?  Also would anyone mind debian on it or should we have
> something else
> >>>>> on it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How much do we wanna spend?  I have a feeling stallion could use
> some
> >>>>>> new drives as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Totally valid.   I was trying to go cheap and low power for cost
> >>>>>>> reasons.  Maybe we would not need IPMI if we could get a select
> team to
> >>>>>>> actually go to the space, perhaps even monitor that it is up.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2014 8:20 AM, "Ben Kochie" <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There were two reason I was suggesting the Supermicro+Xeon.
> >>>>>>>> * ECC RAM (would be more stable)
> >>>>>>>> * IPMI
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For a very long time we've had issues where things were broken for
> >>>>>>>> weeks, and nobody in the space seems capable of plugging in a VGA
> cable
> >>>>>>>> anymore. Having IPMI would let us debug boot issues from remote.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think most of the boards you suggested support VM, just want to
> >>>>>>>> make sure we keep VM support in any replacement option.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -ben
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Doh.   I suck at mail.
> >>>>>>>>> I was thinking something significantly cheaper and lower power.
> >>>>>>>>> More like one of those mini it
> >>>>>>>>> boards with 16 gigabytes of ram and spending more like 80 but on
> >>>>>>>>> the board and processor.   I
> >>>>>>>>> saw some nice celery 1037u boards that have TV 2 cores and usb
> 3.0.
> >>>>>>>>> They also have a pic
> >>>>>>>>> express card.   I have even seen some with dual ethernet.   There
> >>>>>>>>> are some similar AMD fusion
> >>>>>>>>> boards too.  The whole machine would hopefully have a TDP of
> under
> >>>>>>>>> 100 watts even when
> >>>>>>>>> loaded.    What do you all think?  Something
> >>>>>>>>> like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-679but
> >>>>>>>>> with usb 3.0 and a pci
> >>>>>>>>> express slot.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>       There is a 2U case on my member shelf that was destined to
> >>>>>>>>> become the new stallion.
> >>>>>>>>>        It has a over-powered 2 CPU motherboard I was planning to
> >>>>>>>>> replace with somehting
> >>>>>>>>>       less hungry.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1519387
> >>>>>>>>>       Combo Deal: $340
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>       Xeon E3-1220V3 Haswell 3.1GHz 4-core
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>       Supermicro MBD-X10SLM-F-O - uATX
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182820
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>       2x 8G DDR3 ECC (un-buff) $210
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148770
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>       1U heatsink (Supermicro) $22
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101298
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>       Total: $572
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>       -ben
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>       On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Casey Callendrello wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             The closet is clear, but I'm pretty sure Stallion has
> >>>>>>>>> thrown off its
> >>>>>>>>>             mortal coil. The last time
> >>>>>>>>>             I poked at it, one of the NICs was bad, the graphics
> >>>>>>>>> card was flaky, and
> >>>>>>>>>             (worst of all) the lvm
> >>>>>>>>>             volume for Pony is failing to mount.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             I think it's time we pour one out for our dead homies
> >>>>>>>>> and throw in a
> >>>>>>>>>             low-power replacement.
> >>>>>>>>>             --Casey
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             On 2/11/14, 11:56 PM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>                   I should also add that I'm happy to help get it
> >>>>>>>>> healthy again, but
> >>>>>>>>>             as a non-regular
> >>>>>>>>>                   user busy with my life elsewhere, I haven't
> been
> >>>>>>>>> super motivated
> >>>>>>>>>             to dive in and fix
> >>>>>>>>>                   it.
> >>>>>>>>>             Maybe start with a working monitor/keyboard on
> >>>>>>>>> stallion? Last I was
> >>>>>>>>>             there to try and fix
> >>>>>>>>>             it, I couldn't reach the back of Susan the Rack
> (there
> >>>>>>>>> was a giant 40+U
> >>>>>>>>>             4-poster wedged
> >>>>>>>>>             into the other side of that closet)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Jonathan Lassoff
> >>>>>>>>> <jof at thejof.com>
> >>>>>>>>>             wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>                   Pony has been offline for a long time. I can no
> >>>>>>>>> longer reach it
> >>>>>>>>>             from remote.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Ronald Cotoni
> >>>>>>>>> <setient at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>             wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>                   I heard that it is having some issues and most
> of
> >>>>>>>>> the people who
> >>>>>>>>>             were
> >>>>>>>>>                   involved with it this.  I also just saw a
> message
> >>>>>>>>> about the
> >>>>>>>>>                   next_meeting.py that ran on it which is no
> longer
> >>>>>>>>> running.  Is
> >>>>>>>>>             there any
> >>>>>>>>>                   assistance needed getting it stable?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>             --
> >>>>>>>>>             Ronald Cotoni Systems Engineer
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Ronald CotoniSystems Engineer
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
> >>>>>> Systems Engineer
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Ronald Cotoni
> >>>>> Systems Engineer
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Ronald Cotoni
> >>> Systems Engineer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ronald Cotoni
> >> Systems Engineer
> >
> >
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-- 
Ronald Cotoni
Systems Engineer
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