[Rack] Stallion/pony

Casey Callendrello c1 at caseyc.net
Wed Feb 19 19:19:00 UTC 2014


They might still be good then. All I know is that LVM was complaining
about the pony volume being gone. I didn't research further -- sometimes
I go to NB to hack, I swear :-)

--Casey

On 2/19/14, 11:14 AM, Ben Kochie wrote:
> The 4x 1.5T drives that are in the machine were donated by me a few
> years ago when the 1T drives in it were on their way out.
>
> If we don't mind refurb:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236260
> $99 2T RE4 drive.
>
> Or Seagate 2T for $160
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148825
>
> -ben
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
>
>> So we did some talking after last night's meeting.  We want new
>> drives since Casey thinks one or
>> more of the drives in stallion was also bad or dying.   I was
>> thinking we could spend less on
>> some of the other parts.  We thought around the beginning goal of 572
>> would be a great place to
>> start.   I think part of the beef of stallion is that they were not
>> enterprise drives.  I think
>> we could swing for 4x500 gig new enterprise drives or maybe even 1tb,
>> depending on price.  
>> I think we basically agreed that IPMI is a requirement so my idea of
>> the celeron board is a bad
>> idea TM.  
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>       We did find a good home!  We can use it for other things ( as
>> long as we don't leave
>>       it on all the time).  I am going to be starting a sysadmin
>> class at noisebridge and
>>       it would make an ideal machine for teaching since it has VT and
>> a bunch of storage.
>>         It would be great for the students to setup Vagrant,
>> Openstack and other things on
>>       from scratch on a regular basis.  
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:05 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com> wrote:
>>       Ronald,
>>
>>       I'm all for saving energy, but perfection is the enemy of good.
>>       $300/yr for powering a main server isn't excessive.
>>
>>       If people really do think 200W is excessive and should be
>> ewaste, I
>>       can find a good home for it :)
>>
>>       Cheers!
>>       John
>>
>>       On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
>> > 200W = 1.7MWh = $300 per year.
>> >
>> > My 6 drive sandy bridge machine is 70W at idle.
>> >
>> > Maybe worth some $ to reduce long term cost.
>> >
>> >
>> > On February 16, 2014 8:55:30 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Spot on.  200 watts.   Is it worth it though since we are not buying
>> >> anything?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Ronald Cotoni
>> <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> You are right.  Let me see if I can find the kill o watt.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The E5405 (harpertown), if I remember correctly uses FB-DIMMs. I
>> thought
>> >>>> we wanted to reduce the power use. These will likely be 200+W
>> machines.
>> >>>> Unfortunately E-waste.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On February 16, 2014 8:35:14 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni
>> <setient at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> So this has been actually solved with 0 dollars.  Kellan Jacobs
>> donated
>> >>>>> some servers to noisebridge.  One was a nice fancy Xeon E5405
>> with 8gb of
>> >>>>> ram and 4x 2tb hd's.  I was going to setup a raid 1 mirror with
>> the other
>> >>>>> two drives as spares (I do not know how good they are).  What
>> do you all
>> >>>>> think?  Also would anyone mind debian on it or should we have
>> something else
>> >>>>> on it?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> How much do we wanna spend?  I have a feeling stallion could
>> use some
>> >>>>>> new drives as well.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Ronald Cotoni
>> <setient at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Totally valid.   I was trying to go cheap and low power for cost
>> >>>>>>> reasons.  Maybe we would not need IPMI if we could get a
>> select team to
>> >>>>>>> actually go to the space, perhaps even monitor that it is up.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2014 8:20 AM, "Ben Kochie" <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> There were two reason I was suggesting the Supermicro+Xeon.
>> >>>>>>>> * ECC RAM (would be more stable)
>> >>>>>>>> * IPMI
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> For a very long time we've had issues where things were
>> broken for
>> >>>>>>>> weeks, and nobody in the space seems capable of plugging in
>> a VGA cable
>> >>>>>>>> anymore. Having IPMI would let us debug boot issues from
>> remote.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I think most of the boards you suggested support VM, just
>> want to
>> >>>>>>>> make sure we keep VM support in any replacement option.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> -ben
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Doh.   I suck at mail.
>> >>>>>>>>> I was thinking something significantly cheaper and lower
>> power.
>> >>>>>>>>> More like one of those mini it
>> >>>>>>>>> boards with 16 gigabytes of ram and spending more like 80
>> but on
>> >>>>>>>>> the board and processor.   I
>> >>>>>>>>> saw some nice celery 1037u boards that have TV 2 cores and
>> usb 3.0.
>> >>>>>>>>> They also have a pic
>> >>>>>>>>> express card.   I have even seen some with dual ethernet.  
>> There
>> >>>>>>>>> are some similar AMD fusion
>> >>>>>>>>> boards too.  The whole machine would hopefully have a TDP
>> of under
>> >>>>>>>>> 100 watts even when
>> >>>>>>>>> loaded.    What do you all think?  Something
>> >>>>>>>>> like
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-679 but
>> >>>>>>>>> with usb 3.0 and a pci
>> >>>>>>>>> express slot.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>       There is a 2U case on my member shelf that was
>> destined to
>> >>>>>>>>> become the new stallion.
>> >>>>>>>>>        It has a over-powered 2 CPU motherboard I was
>> planning to
>> >>>>>>>>> replace with somehting
>> >>>>>>>>>       less hungry.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1519387
>> >>>>>>>>>       Combo Deal: $340
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>       Xeon E3-1220V3 Haswell 3.1GHz 4-core
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>       Supermicro MBD-X10SLM-F-O - uATX
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182820
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>       2x 8G DDR3 ECC (un-buff) $210
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148770
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>       1U heatsink (Supermicro) $22
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101298
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>       Total: $572
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>       -ben
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>       On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Casey Callendrello wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>             The closet is clear, but I'm pretty sure
>> Stallion has
>> >>>>>>>>> thrown off its
>> >>>>>>>>>             mortal coil. The last time
>> >>>>>>>>>             I poked at it, one of the NICs was bad, the
>> graphics
>> >>>>>>>>> card was flaky, and
>> >>>>>>>>>             (worst of all) the lvm
>> >>>>>>>>>             volume for Pony is failing to mount.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>             I think it's time we pour one out for our dead
>> homies
>> >>>>>>>>> and throw in a
>> >>>>>>>>>             low-power replacement.
>> >>>>>>>>>             --Casey
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>             On 2/11/14, 11:56 PM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                   I should also add that I'm happy to help
>> get it
>> >>>>>>>>> healthy again, but
>> >>>>>>>>>             as a non-regular
>> >>>>>>>>>                   user busy with my life elsewhere, I
>> haven't been
>> >>>>>>>>> super motivated
>> >>>>>>>>>             to dive in and fix
>> >>>>>>>>>                   it.
>> >>>>>>>>>             Maybe start with a working monitor/keyboard on
>> >>>>>>>>> stallion? Last I was
>> >>>>>>>>>             there to try and fix
>> >>>>>>>>>             it, I couldn't reach the back of Susan the Rack
>> (there
>> >>>>>>>>> was a giant 40+U
>> >>>>>>>>>             4-poster wedged
>> >>>>>>>>>             into the other side of that closet)
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>             On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Jonathan Lassoff
>> >>>>>>>>> <jof at thejof.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>             wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                   Pony has been offline for a long time. I
>> can no
>> >>>>>>>>> longer reach it
>> >>>>>>>>>             from remote.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>             On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Ronald Cotoni
>> >>>>>>>>> <setient at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>             wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>                   I heard that it is having some issues and
>> most of
>> >>>>>>>>> the people who
>> >>>>>>>>>             were
>> >>>>>>>>>                   involved with it this.  I also just saw a
>> message
>> >>>>>>>>> about the
>> >>>>>>>>>                   next_meeting.py that ran on it which is
>> no longer
>> >>>>>>>>> running.  Is
>> >>>>>>>>>             there any
>> >>>>>>>>>                   assistance needed getting it stable?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>             --
>> >>>>>>>>>             Ronald Cotoni Systems Engineer
>> >>>>>>>>>
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