[Rack] Stallion/pony

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Wed Feb 19 21:47:42 UTC 2014


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I am confused, how does one get to pony?  Is it in NB network proper?

On 2/19/14, 1:03 PM, Ben Kochie wrote:
> Well. Those drives are some of the worst drives I ever bought.
> Hence why they ended up at NB. :-)
> 
> On February 19, 2014 8:19:00 PM CET, Casey Callendrello
> <c1 at caseyc.net> wrote:
>> They might still be good then. All I know is that LVM was
>> complaining about the pony volume being gone. I didn't research
>> further -- sometimes I go to NB to hack, I swear :-)
>> 
>> --Casey
>> 
>> On 2/19/14, 11:14 AM, Ben Kochie wrote:
>>> The 4x 1.5T drives that are in the machine were donated by me a
>>> few years ago when the 1T drives in it were on their way out.
>>> 
>>> If we don't mind refurb: 
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236260
>>>
>>> 
$99 2T RE4 drive.
>>> 
>>> Or Seagate 2T for $160 
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148825
>>>
>>>
>>> 
- -ben
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So we did some talking after last night's meeting.  We want
>>>> new drives since Casey thinks one or more of the drives in
>>>> stallion was also bad or dying.   I was thinking we could
>>>> spend less on some of the other parts.  We thought around the
>>>> beginning goal of
>> 572
>>>> would be a great place to start.   I think part of the beef
>>>> of stallion is that they were not enterprise drives.  I
>>>> think we could swing for 4x500 gig new enterprise drives or
>>>> maybe even
>> 1tb,
>>>> depending on price. I think we basically agreed that IPMI is
>>>> a requirement so my idea of the celeron board is a bad idea
>>>> TM.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Ronald Cotoni
>>>> <setient at gmail.com> wrote: We did find a good home!  We can
>>>> use it for other things ( as long as we don't leave it on all
>>>> the time).  I am going to be starting a sysadmin class at
>>>> noisebridge and it would make an ideal machine for teaching
>>>> since it has VT
>> and
>>>> a bunch of storage. It would be great for the students to
>>>> setup Vagrant, Openstack and other things on from scratch on
>>>> a regular basis.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:05 PM, John Ellis
>>>> <neurofog at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Ronald,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm all for saving energy, but perfection is the enemy of
>> good.
>>>> $300/yr for powering a main server isn't excessive.
>>>> 
>>>> If people really do think 200W is excessive and should be 
>>>> ewaste, I can find a good home for it :)
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers! John
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 200W = 1.7MWh = $300 per year.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My 6 drive sandy bridge machine is 70W at idle.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe worth some $ to reduce long term cost.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On February 16, 2014 8:55:30 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni
>> <setient at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Spot on.  200 watts.   Is it worth it though since we are
>>>>>> not
>> buying
>>>>>> anything?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Ronald Cotoni
>>>> <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You are right.  Let me see if I can find the kill o
>>>>>>> watt.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Ben Kochie
>>>>>>> <ben at nerp.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The E5405 (harpertown), if I remember correctly uses
>>>>>>>> FB-DIMMs.
>> I
>>>> thought
>>>>>>>> we wanted to reduce the power use. These will likely
>>>>>>>> be 200+W
>>>> machines.
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately E-waste.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On February 16, 2014 8:35:14 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni
>>>> <setient at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So this has been actually solved with 0 dollars.
>>>>>>>>> Kellan
>> Jacobs
>>>> donated
>>>>>>>>> some servers to noisebridge.  One was a nice fancy
>>>>>>>>> Xeon E5405
>>>> with 8gb of
>>>>>>>>> ram and 4x 2tb hd's.  I was going to setup a raid 1
>>>>>>>>> mirror
>> with
>>>> the other
>>>>>>>>> two drives as spares (I do not know how good they
>>>>>>>>> are).  What
>>>> do you all
>>>>>>>>> think?  Also would anyone mind debian on it or
>>>>>>>>> should we have
>>>> something else
>>>>>>>>> on it?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Ronald Cotoni
>> <setient at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> How much do we wanna spend?  I have a feeling
>>>>>>>>>> stallion could
>>>> use some
>>>>>>>>>> new drives as well.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Ronald Cotoni
>>>> <setient at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Totally valid.   I was trying to go cheap and
>>>>>>>>>>> low power for
>> cost
>>>>>>>>>>> reasons.  Maybe we would not need IPMI if we
>>>>>>>>>>> could get a
>>>> select team to
>>>>>>>>>>> actually go to the space, perhaps even monitor
>>>>>>>>>>> that it is
>> up.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2014 8:20 AM, "Ben Kochie"
>>>>>>>>>>> <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> There were two reason I was suggesting the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Supermicro+Xeon. * ECC RAM (would be more
>>>>>>>>>>>> stable) * IPMI
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> For a very long time we've had issues where
>>>>>>>>>>>> things were
>>>> broken for
>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks, and nobody in the space seems capable
>>>>>>>>>>>> of plugging in
>>>> a VGA cable
>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Having IPMI would let us debug boot
>>>>>>>>>>>> issues from
>>>> remote.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think most of the boards you suggested
>>>>>>>>>>>> support VM, just
>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>>>>> make sure we keep VM support in any
>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement option.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -ben
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doh.   I suck at mail. I was thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something significantly cheaper and lower
>>>> power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> More like one of those mini it boards with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16 gigabytes of ram and spending more like
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80
>>>> but on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the board and processor.   I saw some nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> celery 1037u boards that have TV 2 cores
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>> usb 3.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They also have a pic express card.   I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even seen some with dual ethernet.
>> 
>>>> There
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are some similar AMD fusion boards too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole machine would hopefully have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TDP
>>>> of under
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 watts even when loaded.    What do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all think?  Something like
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-679
>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with usb 3.0 and a pci express slot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kochie
>> <ben at nerp.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a 2U case on my member shelf that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>> destined to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> become the new stallion. It has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over-powered 2 CPU motherboard I was
>>>> planning to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> replace with somehting less hungry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1519387
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> 
Combo Deal: $340
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xeon E3-1220V3 Haswell 3.1GHz 4-core
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> 
Supermicro MBD-X10SLM-F-O - uATX
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182820
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> 
2x 8G DDR3 ECC (un-buff) $210
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148770
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> 
1U heatsink (Supermicro) $22
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101298
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> 
Total: $572
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Casey Callendrello
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The closet is clear, but I'm pretty sure
>>>> Stallion has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thrown off its mortal coil. The last time I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> poked at it, one of the NICs was bad, the
>>>> graphics
>>>>>>>>>>>>> card was flaky, and (worst of all) the lvm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> volume for Pony is failing to mount.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's time we pour one out for our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dead
>>>> homies
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and throw in a low-power replacement. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Casey
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/11/14, 11:56 PM, Jonathan Lassoff
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: I should also add that I'm happy to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>> get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> healthy again, but as a non-regular user
>>>>>>>>>>>>> busy with my life elsewhere, I
>>>> haven't been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> super motivated to dive in and fix it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe start with a working monitor/keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on stallion? Last I was there to try and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix it, I couldn't reach the back of Susan
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> Rack
>>>> (there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a giant 40+U 4-poster wedged into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other side of that closet)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Jonathan
>> Lassoff
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jof at thejof.com> wrote: Pony has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline for a long time. I
>>>> can no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer reach it from remote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Ronald
>> Cotoni
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <setient at gmail.com> wrote: I heard that it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is having some issues
>> and
>>>> most of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the people who were involved with it this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also just saw
>> a
>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the next_meeting.py that ran on it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is
>>>> no longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> running.  Is there any assistance needed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting it stable?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ronald Cotoni Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronald CotoniSystems Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -- Ronald Cotoni Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- Ronald Cotoni Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> -- Ronald Cotoni Systems Engineer
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>>>>>> -- Ronald Cotoni Systems Engineer
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