[Space] [Noisebridge-discuss] a riddle for you all

Christie Dudley longobord at gmail.com
Wed Feb 10 14:56:13 PST 2010


That next frame also raises an interesting question.  Did we stop spinning
and oscillating wildly on the descent?  It seems likely, considering the
images.  This suggests we omit all theories for the destabilization that
don't explicitly include the balloon.

Sounds like descent pics are likely to be, on the whole, better than ascent
pics.

Also, thinking on it, it might not be as lucky as you'd think.  Correct me
if I'm wrong but if the box stabilized out, it would likely do so with the
greatest weight towards the back, which would mean the camera, since not
much else was nailed down.  Since we're shooting with a wide angle, we'll
get quite a lot of area in the shot.  It would seem to me rather probable
that we'd manage to get a shot with our detritus in it.

Christie
_______
"The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." -- W. Blake.

The outer bounds is only the beginning.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/genriel/sets/72157623376093724/


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Ozzy Satori <ozzymandi at gmail.com> wrote:

> It does appear as though there is some line or rope attached to the balloon
> fragment, trailing behind it, that line or rope bridges the fragment to the
> cloud layer below visually, to make it appear as though they're connected.
> If you look at the next frame, however, you can see the 'vapor trail' is
> still there (this time clearly attached the the marine layer below), even
> after the balloon fragement has fallen well out of frame.
>
> One hell of a lucky capture though, in any case.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Christie Dudley <longobord at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> That would be... odd.  I imagine correction for the fisheye is in order to
>> get a better understanding of the geometry.
>>
>> The reason I concluded it was an aircraft is it has a rather visible vapor
>> trail.  I imagine the balloon very well could leave a trail, but not the
>> shard of the balloon.  The trail seems to be completely aligned with the
>> object, not above as you'd expect for something that is in free fall.
>>
>> Do you think the trail could be powder from the interior of the balloon or
>> condensation on the rapidly expanded helium?  It would have to be something
>> generated or released rather slowly after the burst, due to the alignment
>> and trail that appears to be just over the clouds.
>>
>> But you're right, it does kind of neatly follow the line that our balloon
>> took.  Curious.
>>
>> Did anyone happen to take any calibration images so the fisheye could be
>> corrected?  I'd really love to see that image cleaned up and enhanced.
>>
>> Christie
>> _______
>> "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." -- W. Blake.
>>
>> The outer bounds is only the beginning.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/genriel/sets/72157623376093724/
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Mikolaj Habryn <dichro at rcpt.to> wrote:
>>
>>> I think we just got even more remarkably lucky.
>>>
>>> Our best guess for the burst time of the balloon, based on
>>> accelerometer data, is 17:02:05. This picture is time-stamped
>>> 17:02:54, however I set the clock on the camera by hand the day
>>> before, and only to the nearest minute. I think we managed to capture
>>> a shard of the balloon flying off into the distance seconds after the
>>> burst.
>>>
>>> m.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Christie Dudley <longobord at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > What kind of aircraft do you think that is?  It's so small to make out.
>>> > Christie
>>> > _______
>>> > "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." -- W. Blake.
>>> >
>>> > The outer bounds is only the beginning.
>>> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/genriel/sets/72157623376093724/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Mikolaj Habryn <dichro at rcpt.to>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I just uploaded the complete photoset to
>>> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/syncretin/SpacebridgeAlpha02#
>>> >>
>>> >> Have a look at picture 131:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/syncretin/SpacebridgeAlpha02#5436722689403374338
>>> >>
>>> >> What do you see?
>>> >>
>>> >> m.
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>>
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