Meeting Notes 2017 12 05

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These are the notes from the The XXXth Meeting of Noisebridge. Date: FIXME THE DATE HERE Note-taker: FIXME YOUR NAME HERE; Moderators: FIXME THEIR NAME HERE.

  • One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.

Meeting Summary[edit]


  • Announcements:
  • Finances:
  • New members:
  • New philanthropists:
  • Consensus Items:
  • Discussion Items:


J: Noisebridge is a non-profit hackerspace where we encourage you to do art, science, tech, anything in between, with only one rule: Be excellent to each other!

Intros: Travis: Generally just codes, this is his first meeting in a year Jay: Help out w/ Python class, interested in all kinds of tech stuff Darryl (they/them): Hi I'm darryl also @augur on slack I teach laser cutter, I do all types of things, programming language theory, haskell classs. katherine: I am @ratikate on slack, I love the sewing area, does lots of other things here (eg cleaning the bathrooms), is a nice person, and claps for herself Luke: Just listening in Paul: Is paul and new to noisebridge, first time, likes software and math Scott: Hi I'm scotty I am currently video taping and am making a short film for youtube, I tell stories. Steve: Software dev, occassional musician, coming around 4/5 years, mostly working on datascience Roy: I am roy I come here for a while now, I do differeent sorts of stuff w locks and keys, and security stuff and occassionally the laser. I'll use any pronoun but "It" Francesca: First meeting, been coming sporadically for about a year, interests are data analysis/business intelligence, trying to do more visualization stuff and web based stuff. specializes in solar and sustainability related data, esp. w/ the solar industry, curious what happens at meetings, looking for some way to contribute more

  • clapping*

Jeremy: pretty new here 1st meeting 2nd time at nb, finally got my ass here, does crappy python dev, good tech ops, hack on 3d printers, arduinos, rasberry pi, wants to build a bot, fell in love here. Likes a lot of things, and wants to meet like minded people. he/him

Anita: First time here, looking for a place to do youtube videos, hoping to learn cool stuff

  • clapping*

ray: hi I am anitas body guard, I do a lot of stuff w drones, micro controllers, been doing it a reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally long time. This is my first visit, just checking it out to see whats here. We used to support a hackerspace in the east bay a lot, but don't go there much. (sudo room) I hate crossing the bridge, so it just made sense to come to a space of this size to come to.

  • clapping*

Aaron: first time at noisebridge (its awesome!) , design engineer who helps industrial designers fit their designs to 3d printers, builds loud speakers, learning to drive light arrays from midi(?) output Brandon: new here as well, just looking to get involved and expand myself to technology. Dan: second time here, first meeting, kinda dabbling in lots of things lately; cold casting silicone molds, etc. hoping to practice and learn Kevin: 1st meeting, been coming to nb for a year, I am a chemical engineer for a oil company, interested in python want to learn from people who may be smarter than I am! J: Hi! I love noisebridge! and i love teaching here! been doing it for over 4 years, since mitch has been travelling so much and needed someone to take over CHM. teaches in and outside noisebridge, helps anyone who wants to teach a class at NB figure out how to make it happen. if you wanna teach a class here, check out my locker for contact info, the one with lots of stickers! Mitch: my name is mitch I am one of the founders in 32007, I love noisebridge, I travel a lot, I was just in china teaching teachers how to teach in project based learning, and it was a lot of fun, all these people that have never used electronics were teaching w arduinos, a lot of ppl know things that you dont know, we teach eachother, share learn, thanks!

  • clapping*

Merlin (she/her): That merlin, w/ 10 million checkmarks! travels a lot, does projects and tutorials and videos about IOT, robots, and stuff Trent: sometimes teach the python class, w/ maybe about 10 other people so if you wanna teach, always looking for more! Ben: Does internet stuff and python stuff, likes noisebridge

  • clapping*

Noisebridge is a 501c3 nonprofit that provides a space for creation, collaboration, and learning about technology and creative projects. Noisebridge provides space, power tools, and infrastructure to help the public learn new skills and create cool things. Noisebridge continues to exist through and depends entirely on membership fees and donations. Our code of conduct is 'Be excellent to each other'."

  • Introduce any experimental or unusual moderation techniques that may be using during the meeting like: direct responses, limited speaking time, orderless stack, &c.
  • Round of introductions (remember, announcements come later):
    • What's your name?
    • What's your preferred pronoun?
    • What do you do?
    • What do you maintain at Noisebridge?
    • if you are new: how did you hear about Noisebridge?

Short announcements and events[edit]

  • Cool new projects? Something you'd like people to know? Say now, but keep it short! One or two sentences please!
  • Any happenings at the space of which members should be made aware.
  • Don't hog everyone's time since we all just want to hack!

Merlin: Nerd Nite SF, Merlin's giving a talk Dec 20th, Rickshaw Stop, $8, about weird tech projects that you can build to manipulate your own brain. The Cartoon Art Museum will be there as well! J: Via naomi (nthmost)

   *This Saturday ONLY…* (12/9/2017)  :calendar:
  • @@@ The Brightworks Community Maker Faire @@@*

What: 100+ local makers showing off their warez, teaching and learning from each other. Kids and adults working together as equals.  :hammer_and_wrench: Why: integrating kids education with community experts, making things together, having fun.  :building_construction: Where: Brightworks School @ 1960 Bryant St  :classical_building: When: 12/9/2017 — this Saturday — 1pm to 4pm. Noisebridge: YES. We are a local maker organization and we should come support!

Augur: Tomorrow is the first haskell class of December! 8pm in church! Mitch: Tomorrow at EMSL, SV hardware meetup, Mitch and Clarissa from Kickstarter giving talks; Thursday the 7th is Hardware Devs Didactic Galactic monthly-ish meetup for technical talks about electronics, etc. at Supply Frame Trent: Next Saturday (Dec 9) 6pm, New Space meeting! please come if you'd like to talk about what we want and are planning to do to get a new space for noisebridge! Ben: Thursdays! Topology! 7pm!

Safe Space[edit]

Note: This section is experimental. We discussed it at Meeting_Notes_2016_06_28. We're going to try it for the next meeting, and see how it goes, and then discuss in the discussion section how it went, and how we'd like to tweak it.

Noisebridge is a safe space. Invite a volunteer to describe what that means.

Some specific points you might prompt the group to touch on, if it doesn't happen naturally:

  • What to do if you feel uncomfortable.
  • Noisebridge strives to be radically inclusive. What does that mean?
  • Noisebridge has an antiharassment policy. What does that mean?

Darryl: nb has a safe space policy which means we want people to feel welcome and comffortable, so the way we gfelsh that out is you should be considerate of what you're saying and doing. victoria likes to say just like you would tell ppl to take precausions if you were using high powered machinery to use ear muffs, maybe suggest to folks that they should be mindful of their language and actions. roy: what should I do if I feel unsafe! darryl: If you feel comfortable approaching said person then approach them, if NOT, go to the space guardians slack channel and ask for assiatcnce. if this does not work you are able to ask people to leave and chill out. Ben: what if I am asked to leave?! Darryl: You should leave! there are other cool places in SF :) Francesca: whats a space guardians channel? Everyone: its a slack channel but also you're a space guardian, everyone is! Mitch: we are all guardians of the space, and if you're here then be a space guardian!


Invite a knowledgable volunteer to describe who can participate at Noisebridge, including:

  • Describe how to get an rfid key for the door system
  • Describe how to get access to slack

Roy: how to get rfid access: roy: if you've been coming and contributing to the space on a regular basis you are welcome to ask members for rfid access, philanthropists can renew access to your rfid means. similar for getting access to slack: come around a bunch and then talk to a member maybe! someone will ask you eventually roy: if you have an rfid card it needs to be renewed every 30 days!


  • Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to describe Philantropy, and the application process.
  • Read off any names from the binder for the past month. Any applicants must have their sponsor present to vouch for them.
  • If there are no objections, they're a philanthropist! Their pledge should be handed over to the Secretary posthaste, after which their token will be updated to give them the 24/7 access they've earned(?)

Steve: If you've been coming to NB a bunch and you want to give back and take on more responsibilities, and contribute some money regularly. You get 24 hour access, have to know how to close down the space. Get one member to sponsor you, sign the sheet, and read the info and stuff. If no member objects, you become a philanthropist!

Mitch: If any member feels that a philanthropist is not being excellent, then a member can revoke philanthropist status until things are worked out!

Membership Binder [edit]

  • Invite a knowledgeable volunteer to describe membership, and the application process.

Being a member of Noisebridge is not like being a member of a gym or your local chess club. Anyone can come to Noisebridge to hack and learn: you don't need to be a member for that. At Noisebridge, membership is something different: it means taking responsibility and committing to help to maintain, improve, and govern Noisebridge. As a member of Noisebridge, you don't just come here to hack and learn, you actively work to improve what you see around you, help to deal with problems, and make this community and space better than it is today.

  • Read off any names from the binder for the past month. Mark down a check or other indicator on every open application to keep track of how many weeks they've been read out.
  • Anyone eligible to join this week should
    • introduce themselves,
    • answer any questions members may have for them, then
    • leave the area in search of gifts (traditionally beer and a lime, or cookies) for the rest of the group.
  • The rest of the meeting should reach consensus on whether they may join.
  • Remember to applaud new members when they return.

what does it mean to be amember? it means human uh membership is a lot like hilanthpy but youre concerned bout how the cultuer here is continued and you just really care, not onoy do you contribute to the culture filnancially, but you also contribute to CCCCConcensus, YOU as a member have the burden of blocking or not blocking stuff, and its SERIOUS if you block it severs ties w NB as a blocker, You will have a lasting impact of the space. Darryl: Fill out a form to be a member and get 2 existing members of good standing to endorse you and then you go thru 4 weeks of review process and on the 4 th week if no one blocks you, then you become a member!!! roy: on the fourth week whats the process:

   darryl: I believe it is at that meeting you read out your membership paper, you go away, people talk about you and then discuss candidly about you, while non mebers cannot block, only members can block. Then if it goes well you're great, but if it doesn;t go well then work things out and make thinks better! 
   J: so we all can ask whoever wants to become a member to ask questions. And we have to remember this person is going to be a future of the noisebridge culture.
   Darryl: Its a process to dismember someone. 
   Steve: yoi dont need to be a member to to anything here!A really good metric to judge wheather someone should be a member or not is they already seem like amember. HOLY SHIT, you're not a member, omg you should be a member!
   Merlin: uh I used to become here a bunch, I was on the board but anyway, nbasically that was like people trust you to not abuse your own power. I have been building my own workshop fior a while. So I became a philanthropist and I was PEERPRESSURED to become a member. I like teaching a workshops, and I would like to do more of that so hopefully y being a member if woukd make me do more of that!In the olden days it was customeary to bring drinks and I have a different gift from my travels that needs to be opened on the balcony.
   Mitch: does anyone have any questions to ask
   J: what is it about nb that you love so much?
   Merlin: people, obviously, thats always been the main thing, but what brings me back all the time is I know I can smoosh in here and early in the mornings its quiet but later in the evenings its poppin. People are always coming by who come by and its pop rocks in my brain! I love the whole asthetic of the space, qand how it has transformed and that its self hacking as well as hacking on other things, everything is maleable and everything is open to self improvement.
   trent: idk how familiar you are w the lease and the space change,w hat do you think we would loose or need money to exist or what cool things are happing that we could have?
   merlin: I have been thru a couple rounds of those questions at another makerspace,I always argued that we should stay as much as possible where the community needs us and can use us! that brings me to tech shop and all these hackerspaces need to be places that in words and in practice that you dont have to charge crazy fees, its more improtant to have what we have a keep it available. In terms of chamnging lease status its possible to find something better, but yeah you never know until you look. It can be a positive change. pros and cons.
   J: what are your vies on blocking and give me an example as something you would block and why.
   Merlin: its a tool you would use when your concerns are not being adress at a very last resort. So, its actually kind of something were more of an option, but when democracy doesnt serve you is that part of concenceus that youre not rail roaded into something you dont want to be a part of. Its a good tool to have. in terms of when i would block its pretty outlandish? Like if we didn't allow people of a certain skin color to be allowed at noisebridg.
   why do you want to be a member:
       Merlin: I became a philantrhopist bc its a structuredway of donating, but in the mean time its that I don't excersize my oppinions on things, and alsonI have  alot to keep track of, but at the same time its nice to know that if things go downt the tubes I have that but it gives me an extr impotence if I am hosting workshops. Its mostly an emotional thing.
       Jay: Can you speak about the workships you've hosted?
       Merlin: I used to host a bike lights workshops and I love it, but we have all these spart people w tender skulls and we should protect those w skulls, it keeps you safe, give you a way to learn sautering, and give yous a way to have ann extenction of yourself and I love it!they took like 4-5 hours and then peopel didnt want to go on a bike ride bc they were too wiped out but there is a lot of other stuff I would love to teach here.

Merlin iz Member!!!

Darryl: SO liek I wanna become a member bc you know nb has really affected ly me significantly, it has changed me in ways that can not be undone, and nb is going thru changes as well and I want to ensure that the culture of nb esurvives, the potential changing venue, and steve harrassed me til I filled out the form, and yeah thats all. J: can you give us some of the things that you've done for the space? Darryl: I helped put up sheet rock on the first day I cam here and I painted the wall. I teach the laser cutter class but also the haskell class. I will also teach ppl the laser if they need help. I try to get speakers in for cool talks. Making blinky light art. Try to rent out things from nb as props, bc money, duh! Helping to find a new spce in case we need to move, probabyl other things idk. Mitch: can you talk about your ideas for C and blocking. Darryl: okay ooohh ideas idk, I mean I have oppinions about C, but w/e. For blocking okay this is a q that has been asled 2 or three times, like if I was to block something it would be if nb was to not be open to the public, I just hink that completeley changes what it means to be nb if you change that its open to everyone. Theres a strong future to nb, is its publicness, thats its so open, I wouls v quickluy block that. I really like it when we can push things in c concensuss bc that works v well if something has to be brought up at a meeting you're not even talking to people, I think as much as possible. Scotty: so you meantioned nb has changed as a person can you expand on it? Darryl: no. katherine: what is a pos vs a neg that can be improved upon. Darryl: one really positive thing about nb is it encourages people to in a way take things into their own habds the idea of doacracy is super cool and its not something that popl,get immediatly and its so different to how the world works, and if the world could be like that it would be great. its so important, you come to noisebridge, you change your view of things, and you go thru the world and think why is it like this, we function really well dooacraticly. like you go thru the world and think theres all this bs about not being able to go thru things dooacratically. a place for improvement: band together more and dooacratically maintain things on a regular basis, there is a tendancy to do things a lone, but there is also like we could do it together and get it done! Scotty: when you first started coming to nb we butted heads, a theme was that I think you had a tenancy to react to act badly to add rules or restrictions, and since I have been back I've spend a bunch of time it seems like you dont have that reaction, what changed?! Darryl: I think its much more the case, so you know when we got that flammables cabinent I threw the lock out, I guess my thinking has changed in that I have more confidence that even if someone starts a giant fire its not going to get out of hand, when things go wrong it will turn out alright people will be able to solve the problem. You dont need to put systems in place to control this place bc people are able to react accordingly. Scotty: can you give an example? Darryl: I've been here everyday for a year and a half amd its fine. maybe some things that happened a year and half ago are not cool, like the ps4 was undonates, various things have disappeared but it doesnt destroy noisebridge, its not about the stuff, theres no long lasting impact as nb as a community, my thoughts were wrong and completely different.

Darryl iz Member!!!!

Financial Report[edit]


  • invite a knowledgeable volunteer to give a brief primer on consensus process
  • It is important that everyone in attendance understands at least:
    • Blocking with verbalized principled objections.
    • Why we use consensus over other approaches to decision making.
    • How consensus isn't a legislative process
    • Why consensus isn't applicable to some things like conflict resolution, resolution of time sinks, and the like.

Proposals from last week [edit]

(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the Consensus Items History page.)

Proposals for next week [edit]

(Add any new items for consensus to the Current Consensus Items page.)

Mitch: we try to use little c concensus as much as possible, big C concensus is something that would cost a significant amount of money or would change the way nb is. just follow our one rule: be excellent to each other! So for concensus process a discuss keeps happeneing til everyone is ahppy enought il the proposal moves forward, and everyone agrees. Concensus block only is there as a last resort, its important to be there if things get out of hand or emotional. Blocking, means that in good conciousness you can not be a part of nb if that thing discuss continues. So um, the one exceptiona s we've seen w the membership process any member w good standing but its much better to work things out.

No new consensus items!


Longer discussion items belong here. This is the last part of the meeting so that people can break off and continue their discussion afterwards.

Discussion Items[edit]

If any important discussion happens, it should be happening after forward progress is made during consensus.

Mitch: No lease after August, no space after august, we need to come up with a plan. We need to really start making things happen.

End of Meeting[edit]

  1. Return the membership binder to its rightful location.
  2. Discuss any items for which there was not time during the meeting.
  3. Enjoy the company of your fellow hacker, robot, or robothacker.

Note taker posts the notes[edit]

  1. Clean and tidy the meeting notes including removing all these really verbose instructions.
  2. Fill out the short summary at the top listing just announcements, consensus items, discussion topics, and names of new members and philanthropists.
  3. Copy paste the notes to the next meeting page. (They will become Last meeting at midnight.)
  4. Email the meeting summary to Noisebridge Discuss and Noisebridge Announce lists.
  5. CC on the email and if there are new members and philanthropists.
  6. Edit the Current Consensus Items if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
  7. Edit the Consensus Items History if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.

Fun things to do after[edit]

  • Reprise of the Hackernationale. [This is anarchy - we do what the wiki says!]
  • PGP Key Signing could happen now (if it doesn't happen before any given Meeting). Ask others around the space or check the list to see who wants in on the action.