Meeting Notes 2021 09 21

From Noisebridge
Jump to navigation Jump to search

These are the notes from the The 646th Meeting of Noisebridge.

Date: 2021-09-21

Previous Meeting

Next Meeting

Note-taker: Anon

Moderators: Dave B September 21, 2021

  • One or two bullet points of high-level meeting summary.

Meeting Summary[edit]

  • Fundraising Update
  • Announcements:
  • Finances:
  • New members:
  • New philanthropists:
  • Consensus Items: vaccination requirement honor system consensed
  • Discussion Items: open hours / 30-day access mode extended to 10 PM)


* Dave B: electronics and code.
* Ryan S: he/him -- art install at gray area.
* Dan: I talk a lot.
* Nadeen: Setup chairs for meetings
* Josh: 
* Relay: I install Linux on random machines for no reason
* TJ: I do 5mof
* Josh: NB meeting for over a decade now, enjoy taking things apart.
* Bryan: Hiding out in 3d printer room, does hardware and electronics stuff for the most part
* James: attending virtually


Short announcements and events[edit]

60-second description per item in bulletpoint.

Ryan: Neurotech SF is, on Thursdays at 6pm. Look at the neurotech SF meetup. Wednesdays at 8pm are gamebridge. Online and in person now.

TJ: Saturday we're building the gate as well. Network setup on Sunday.


Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.

(What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.)

Ryan: Excellence is about caring for yourself, others, the space, and the community, it is about calling out when you see something wrong, and being available to help others. Being excellent can be doing things like taking out the trash, fixing a broken machine, cleaning up one of the areas, etc. As long as you follow the one rule, you will be welcome at noisebridge. We also have a Strict antiharassment policy, so if you are making people feel harassed through your actions, you will be asked to leave.

There have been many excellent people recently


Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.

(What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?)

There are many ways to participate at noisebridge, this includes taking a class, teaching a class, giving a presentation, using our equipment, etc. You can also do just about any project since we run on do-ocracy. But if you think that the action or project might disturb others, please go through small c consensus and ask the community before you take any actions. Once you come by for a bit and gain some trust from the community, you can ask for a 30 day access token which will get you in the noisebridge door from 10am to 11pm for 30 days (then it then needs to be renewed). You can also participate digitally through our different online systems- noisebridge slack (ask for access) noisebridge discuss noisebridge wiki noisebridge meetup noisebridge discord

Current 30 day time is 12 noon to 8


A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

If you are a knowledgable member of the space you can apply to be a philanthopis which gives you 24 hour access, and requires you to know how to open and close the space, but you need a Big M member to sponsor you. It is also excellent if you donate between 40 and 80 dollar a month.

Once you come by for a while and have a lot of trust from the community, people might start asking if you want to become a philanthropist (you can also apply right away if you think the benefits are worth it). A philanthropist is the next trust level after daytime access (30 day token) usually in escalating participation. You get 24/7 access during non plague times, pay some money (40 to 80 dollars a month), you must know how to open and close the space, give tours, and introduce new people to the space. We want you to be able to help more people be able to access the space, and be excellent! To apply you get a big M Member to sponsor you, then you fill out a Philanthropy pledge and read all the associated materials, then you come to a Tuesday meeting to submit the application. During that meeting you will be questioned for a bit, and then if no one objects to you being a philanthropist, you will become one.

Membership Binder [edit]

Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

Relay: Everyone who comes here is a member, but there are some people who are big M members who can participate in blocking big C consensus items. But if that member blocks they should discuss it.

Members vouch for other members and for philanthropists. You need 2 members to sponsor you to to be up for

Financial Report[edit]

Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.

Fundraising Update[edit]

How's it all going

No reports.


Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.

(How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)

All members need to agree for big C, it takes 2 weeks of no big changes or blocks.

consensus is the process by which things that can't be done through basic do-ocracy (things that affect others in the space.) It has two flavors, small c and big C. Small c consensus is the process where things that might cause slight issues in the space (events, big projects, moving rooms, etc), you just talk with the community before doing things. Big C consensus is the process by which actions are taken at noisebridge that are too big, too expensive, or too critical to be done by small c consensus. These are things like Moving, spending a lot of money, or doing legal bureaucratic garbage. This is a two week+ process where an item is proposed one week (if possible you should already have the item posted in draft consensus items, and the binder). At that meeting it will be discussed for a while, then the next week it will be discussed again, and if people feel confident, it will be brought up for consensus, and if no big M member blocks the consensus item it passes and becomes a Consensed item.

Proposals from last week [edit]

(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the Consensus Items History page.)


For the next 90 days unless explicitly renewed by fresh Consensus:

[ ] adding to Consensed items. 2021-09-21t. For the next 90 days unless explicitly renewed by fresh Consensus: It is excellent to broach the subject of vaccination, whether by pointing at the sign, or asking the person if they are vaccinated. If people are unvaccinated they must not be let inside without very good reason. It is unexcellent to ask for vaccine cards unless there is a strong reason.


Does this violate

pyconaut - this is why we worded this specifically : we don't want to breach privacy by showing cards / confirm id. It's on the person who asks. They ask, we trust them to say honestly, it is up to discretion. Vaccine cards are unexcellent, unless necessary (for example events). you don't need to even ask, just point to the sign. We are generally trusting of individuals.

JLB - Can I just point at the sign? (yes) ok thank you

pyconaut - There are medical issues, but this is a very rushed vaccine issue.

Dave - Are you saying that distrust of science is a qualifying reason

Ryan - No, I will get any vaccine, but my family is sceintists

Reily - I value privacy, but see it as means to an end to improve security within a community. Giving too much information through a bunch of bad actors for state surveillance, but safety here (for the immunocompromised and such, know vaccine reduces vulnerability) supercededs privacy concerns

TJ - nothing to add to that.

Nadine - we talked about this across multiple meetings so people can assess how they feel. Any comments, go to last week, talked at extreme lenghth. I'm sure it's been several hours of meetings.

mcint - we should have it in the meeting beginning

Dave - brocolli was the only block, rescinded with new wording

pyconaut - do we have quorum ? 3 members present. I do not block this.

It is worded so That it doesn't


Dave B - OK. Ummmm anything else? Anything else? No. Any members blocking. We don't have enough members present. 1.2.3.

Ryan - do have enough members

Counting issues. *General discuss*

There are 3 members present

Dave B - ummmmmmm.. Going once, going twice, yaaayyy consensus.

No members block

pyconaut - need to move to Consensed Items page, with today's date.

James - did we have something we'd re-address in a few months.

Dave - It's 90 days. Do you have the meeting notes James? Can you read the way it's written to make sure you're ok (i.e. not blocking it)

CONSENSED (pending James' approval) Got it. The wording is spaced apart a bit. Copy pasted 90 days line to beginning.

Proposals for next week [edit]

(Add any new items for consensus to the Current Consensus Items page.)


Discussion Item 1[edit]

Extending open hours

Currently 12 to 8

pyconaut - do we think extending hours would get more people in the space? Do we have enough current Philanthropists at the space. doesn't matter if no Philanthropists present, opening hours hinge on Philanthropists being here (willing to let people in)

We should totally build a Space.api switch. See this video at will help us! It is a simple way to notify the world of whether we are open or closed at any given moment. Also indexes alongside other spaces around the world! Lots of info at

?<-speaker : I posted about this spaceapi thing, that will let ppl know when someone is here. Really easy to make. It is fun. (literally wrote this above you! ^^) (Just noting what was said. :D)

  • general chaos around the jitsi server etc... *
  • mumors (sp?)*

Also jitsi seems ok.

or 11 - 11? I guess like 11 - 9 those were the old hours...

we're open whenever people are here? well "philanthropists" What does saying "we're open 12-8" mean? ppl with 30 day access tokens can open the door on their own then. Ahhh, thank you. yep. np np.

Dave - we mean all 30 day users, not just philanthropists

pyconaut - Oh ok, I meant any 30 day users.

Dave - I retract my argument

Relay: NB was always stochastic. It is ok for ppl to be around as long as they are excellent

JLB : I second that

pyconaut : I thought it meant anyone could come in

Dave : I don't think anyone is arguing that

So 10:00 PM extension? No objections?


  • All rejoicing*

Discussion Item 2[edit]

End of Meeting[edit]

Note taker posts the notes[edit]

  • Clean and tidy the meeting notes including removing all these really verbose instructions.
  • Fill out the short summary at the top listing just announcements, consensus items, discussion topics, and names of new members and philanthropists.
  • Copy paste the notes to the next meeting page. (They will become Last meeting at midnight.)
  • Email the meeting summary to Noisebridge Discuss and Noisebridge Announce lists.
  • CC on the email and if there are new members and philanthropists.
  • Edit the Current Consensus Items if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
  • Edit the Consensus Items History if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.

Fun things to do after[edit]

  • Reprise of the Hackernationale. [This is anarchy - we do what the wiki says!]
  • PGP Key Signing could happen now (if it doesn't happen before any given Meeting). Ask others around the space or check the list to see who wants in on the action.