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These are the notes from the The 659th Meeting of Noisebridge.

Date: 2021_12_21 A very beautiful number!

Previous Meeting

Next Meeting

Note-takers: Claus, Lizzard, LXPK

Moderators: Relay


Meeting Summary[edit | edit source]

TLDR what happened at the meeting:

  • 3D Printing needs maintainers and event organizers! Noisebridge is getting a super powerful large multi-material printer donated that people will want to learn. ONGOING
  • Noisebrew is starting soon and accepting funding and equipment donations! Add your name to the wiki page if you're interested in participating or helping. ONGOING
  • Fundraising is planning a NB14 14th anniversary grand reopening fundraiser. Groups at Noisebridge can prepare and exhibit things for it. Add your ideas to the wiki. Help plan at fundraising meetings during Doocratic Thursdays 6-9PM. ONGOING
  • Donation Sign project to build an LED-powered version of the 2169 signage has a mockup draft design and is requesting feedback on the wiki.
  • Finances: check 2 weeks ago report, it is not very different.
  • New members: None
  • New philanthropists: None, one application but the guy is not here.
  • Consensus Items: None
  • Discussion Items:
    • Let's clarify what money we have set aside for buildout/infra
    • Electrical work discussion (will continue Thurs. do-ocracy evening meeting)


Introductions[edit | edit source]

  • Ryan isn't in the meeting, they are just here.
  • Claus- i hack on the space
  • Relay is here just helping out, and hanging out even though its really cold.*
  • Lizzard - they/them - help out with improvements in the space. writer and hacker.
  • bedcloud - is here.
  • eric - haven't been here since 2017, here to say hi. doing stuff with ewaste, trying to find my old scavenging places since they closed down weird stuff warehouse in santa clara
  • TJ - is here. Lets go on with the meeting.
  • Zach - been at nb since 2010 - electronics hardware - coding too - want to remote play chess on fridays and dont want to use an app but instead set up a camera and say rook to f4 kicking it old school on the chess board. News, scotty, iphone guy, our beloved scotty1 had a brain injury, a pipe fell on his head, he's moving to colorado to get medical care. send him your love and support. news at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ3hWyfMlU0

Carl - Hi i'm Carl. i'm evil neo in the red matrix j/k

  • lxpk - hope that scotty will recover and be back! i do game stuff, help with wiki things and meta stuff
  • Lovi - is there. got sudo room laser cutter working.
  • sofia makes a cameo


Short announcements and events[edit | edit source]

  • 60-second description per item in bulletpoint.
  • Announcements:

noisebridge adoption agency - front of space. please take that stuff.

  • Lovi - got the laser cutter working at sudoroom, and has been cutting happily for the last month. someone died on the BART so i found myself here.
  • lxpk - worked on stuff on the wiki - idea of having way to cache up the announcements.

3D Printing needs maintainers and event organizers! Noisebridge is getting a super powerful large multi-material printer donated that people will want to learn. ONGOING

  • can't print because of the sensor is messed up probably
  • claus leaves over criticism
  • Noisebrew is starting soon and accepting funding and equipment donations! Add your name to the wiki page if you're interested in participating or helping. ONGOING
  • Fundraising is planning a NB14 14th anniversary grand reopening fundraiser. Groups at Noisebridge can prepare and exhibit things for it. Add your ideas to the wiki. Help plan at fundraising meetings during Doocratic Thursdays 6-9PM. ONGOING
  • Donation Sign project to build an LED-powered version of the 2169 signage has a mockup draft design and is requesting feedback on the wiki.


  • After announcements, copy them to the past Announcements list. Retire any from the Next Meeting list that aren't marked ONGOING.

Excellence[edit | edit source]

Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other. LXBK figure out all of the little things to be excellent to one another. like the golden rule. reference to bill and ted's excellent adventure Will: Augmenting synonyms can create


(What does that mean? How does the Anti-Harassment Policy fit into this? Are we SURE we know what being Excellent is? This is an important and fundamental conversation at Noisebridge, so let's give it like 120 seconds.) Noisebridge is dedicated to providing a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of gender, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, housing status, or language. We do not tolerate harassment of people at our events or space in any form.

  • People asked to stop any harassing behavior are expected to comply immediately.
  • People violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled from the space or the event at the discretion of any Noisebridge community participant.
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Participation[edit | edit source]

Everyone at Noisebridge is a participant at Noisebridge.

(What does that mean? How do you get a door key? Access to Slack, Discuss, etc?) lxpk: even before you join you are welcome at meetings and teach classes to do things at noisebridge and be excellent. and you want to get in the space. if you want to get access token, please get at temporary access token and 12 hour access.

  • RFID Token for temporary door access can be obtained from members.
  • philanthropist, knows how to close and open noisebridge. takes 1 sponsor at a meeting.
  • membership has 24 access and ability to block consensus items and takes 4 weeks and 2 sponsors.
  • Volunteer to be a maintainer of something you like at Noisebridge!

Do-ocratic Task Board[edit | edit source]

Participation also means doing stuff to contribute to the space. Propose new tasks or pick some tasks from Github, from what needs to be done around you, or whatever, and see if someone will sign up to work on that task. Anyone can sign up and it's a great way to show you are contributing!


Feedback:

    • lizzard: looks amazing!!! do it! useful!!
    • tj - flaschen protocl may be overkill - laser cut stuff does have a nice effect. nice aesthetic.
    • lovi - looks great to use something from the past
    • lxpk - anyone have color feedback/suggestions
    • bedcloud - has ideas! make it pop! knows how!


  • electrical work!! (see discussion below)

Philanthropists[edit | edit source]

A Philanthropist at Noisebridge has earned enough trust from the community to open and close the space.

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Philanthropists? How do you become one? etc)

  • You can set up any amount of recurring donation to show commitment
  • You'll get trained to open and close the space for 24 hour access

Membership Binder [edit | edit source]

Membership in Noisebridge entails community Trust in Consensus.

(What does that mean? What do we expect from Members? How do you become a Member? etc)

  • Anyone can propose a consensus items and only members can block and members can vote for the board

Financial Report[edit | edit source]

Anarchist societies under a capitalist state need money to survive and thrive, yo.

Financial Report - Dec 7, 2021 Being updated. As of 2021 11 16: 

   Cash: $325,736.19

   Crypto: $145,016.08

   Total: $470,752.27

   DEFICIT: spending deficit currently.


Fundraising Update[edit | edit source]

  • Relay: Wanted to discuss fundraising idea. We do have assets in cash. We should put our assets in some investments that pay interest! We could have our cash assets grow like crypto does. We've done well through the recession because of crypto. Any objections?
  • TJ: Seems like a good idea for stable growth!
  • Nothing risky, good to maintain long term stability.

Consensus[edit | edit source]

Consensus is how the Noisebridge Membership may change how Noisebridge works.

(How does Consensus work? What types of things are good for formal Consensus? What is small-c consensus? What is a "block"?)


Proposals from last week [edit | edit source]

(Add any items which are consensed upon or someone has raised a principle objection for to the Consensus Items History page.)

Proposals for next week [edit | edit source]

(Add any new items for consensus to the Current Consensus Items page.)

Discussion[edit | edit source]

Discussion Item 1[edit | edit source]

  • Lizzard: We need to spend some money on infrastructure. Electrical (as below) Downstairs toilet. Floor refinishing (even just the front half/ hackitorium would help). What is blocking us? Do we need a budget? Would having a separate bank account with some maintenance/infra money in it, help? (and empowering people to use it)
  • I want us to not bleed cash but also not let the space look bad or be unsafe so we should invest some funds in it. Let's figure out how much we're comfortable spending.
  • LXPK: do we or dont' we have funds for laser cuter. actually we already put aside money for that in buildout.

lizzard: !!!! really!

  • lxpk: Yes. we did this in consensus. using a process called expedited consensus.
  • lizzard - we want to be efficient but have safeguards against bad / too hasty decision/ bad actors.
  • Let's ask the treasurer and put that into the financial report. (how much is set aside for buildout)


Discussion Item 2[edit | edit source]

   Hiring an electrician: List out what electrical work needs to be done for the laser cutter (120V and 240V panel installation, running conduit from garage door to underneath back stairwell, etc.).

   arc welder in back (patio?)

   Get 2-3 estimates on having the electrician to do 100% of the work we need.

   Get 2-3 estimates on having electrician do only bare minimum to be permit compliant, and we DIY the rest. (If we're a small fish with a small job, and if we're picky to save a few dollars, we'll be dropped to the lowest priority)
  • mapping the space with 3d model
  • do we have an electrical map as part of CAD file. will help deal with electrician.
  • TJ- claus says we have more paperwork that we have to do to get permitting and contractor. How it will be wired depends on the room arrangements which are in flux. Maybe better to just get in touch through the long legal hoops now so when they finally ask us what we want then we can start sending them the electrical maps.
  • Liz: Do we need permits? Thought we didn't for this.
  • TJ: Setting up contract less trivial than we thought. And should we start with laser cutter and move on?
  • gaarden (i think?): We need high voltage for arc welder in the back.
  • Relay: Putting it in back where it won't blind people will save people's eyes with a blinder.
  • lxpk: SparkleForge was stuff not good to be near to wood dust - can't be dirty. but also may involve fire risk.
  • lxpk - https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Resources/Electrical_Map needs to be updated with our current actual electrical to help electrical folks do upgrades and update that map
  • lovi talks about the sudo room laser lens being cracked. we must protect it from smoke. (ie isolate it from...)
  • Smoke cracks the laser cutter and Sudo's got cracked that way
  • Gaardn: Lovi's right about that.
  • LXPK: So I take it then that the ideal setup for sparkleforge would partition or vent all smoke away from the laser cutter.
  • Relay: Moveable walls or drape partitions.
  • Gaardn: Is financial reason?
  • Liz: We can do them if we redo electrical things and permits.
  • Gaardn: We can do permits if it needs to be done.
  • Liz: Expensive but maybe the right way.
  • LXPK: Partition would be a start until the permit and build happens of a wall.
  • Relay: We need solid layout before we build walls.
  • Lovi: I've seen temp partitions work.
  • LXPK: Should we have a build layout meeting?
  • Relay: Let's do that.Sparse turnout lately.
  • TJ: If we set day and time lots would help.
  • Gaardn: Monday 7?
  • Relay: No. Will we be able to get enough people?
  • Lovi: Realistic to wait till new year?
  • Liz: Clean out, access control, then walls.
  • TJ: We could build partitions where we want them to be. before we commit to the wall/ permiting process
  • Liz: I like that curtain idea. (big theatrical curtain!?)
  • LXPK: Could we start drafting it during Doocratic thursdays? I can put it in VR from the Sketchup and Blender files.
  • Gaardn: How to collaborate?
  • LXPK: We can move objects around the VR space and take pictures or draw sketches and put pictures on the 272 wiki.
  • Sofia: How reliable would a plan be if people move things around?
  • Relay: If the plan works out well enough and is a lot of work to move, it probably won't be.
  • Sofia: Disagree.
  • TJ: The way I've seen things done is people just do reversible things and things will solidify around them.
  • LXPK: Ill be in tomorrow (Wednesday) 7-11 to get the layout visualization system started and for anyone who wants to discuss. First drafting of actual layout meeting will be Thursday 6-9PM and will continue every Thursday till we like it.

Discussion Item 3[edit | edit source]

board members: Dashboard, Liz's cat nominated.

End of Meeting[edit | edit source]

Note taker posts the notes[edit | edit source]

  • Clean and tidy the meeting notes including removing all these really verbose instructions.
  • Fill out the short summary at the top listing just announcements, consensus items, discussion topics, and names of new members and philanthropists.
  • Copy paste the notes to the next meeting page. (They will become Last meeting at midnight.)
  • Email the meeting summary to Noisebridge Discuss and Noisebridge Announce lists.
  • CC on the email treasurer@noisebridge.net and secretary@noisebridge.net if there are new members and philanthropists.
  • Edit the Current Consensus Items if anything is proposed for consensus next week.
  • Edit the Consensus Items History if anything was reached consensus or failed to reach consensus this week.

Fun things to do after[edit | edit source]

  • Reprise of the Hackernationale. [This is anarchy - we do what the wiki says!]
  • PGP Key Signing could happen now (if it doesn't happen before any given Meeting). Ask others around the space or check the list to see who wants in on the action.
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