Meeting Notes 2026 06 09

These are the notes from the The 867th Meeting of Noisebridge.

Date	2026-06-09
Note-taker[s]	Edrizzle, Michael, -
Moderator[s]	Jet

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Meeting Summary

The 867th meeting covered access membership applications, an active case of community standards enforcement, and infrastructure and community event planning.

• Announcements: Open Sauce conference July 17–19, call for presenters and volunteers; door security reminder—lock the door if you step out and no one is present
• Fundraising Update: None
• Finances: NoiseGarden infrastructure approved; domain ~$20/year, server hosting ~$10–15/month on Noisebridge account
• New core members: None
• New access members: Jeremy (Access Membership); Victor (Access Membership); Marian (Access Membership); Azael (30-day card issued pending full decision)
• Consensus Items: None
• Discussion Items:
  1. "Consensus Process" page: obsolete text in a "do not edit w/o consensus" section; Heather will remove it
  2. Recent ATL: discussing a recent ATL that escalated; resolved as a full 86
  3. NoiseGarden: digital infrastructure project approved; Elan to manage billing.
  4. Preemptive bans: clarification sought on reciprocal ban agreements; no action taken.
  5. NixOS Meetup: Victor approved to host next Wednesday; ~20 attendees expected.

Introductions

• What was the last video game that one played in the last year
• Jet - Bloon TD 6
• Heather - Terraria
• Michael - Disco Elysium
• Frank - Escape from Tarkov
• John - Vampire Crawlers
• Caitlyn - Pokemon Go
• Elan - Coffee Time
• Victor - Chess Online
• Jeremy - Battlefield 6
• Victor - Echoes of Wisdom
• Newman -The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II
• azael- Chess
• Weezy - fortnite
• Drynn - hermitcraft
• JD - fortnite, KSP
• Loren - Universal Paper Clips

Short announcements and events

• Drynn - Made a sock puppet on the knitting maching!!!
• JD - If you unplug the laser to plug your car in, make sure you plug it back in.
• Loren - Doing a coffee run, paper towels, toilet paper. Asks for assistence
• Jet - Open Sauce is in a month. On the 17th-19th of July. Call for people to present. Let Jet know. Volunteers welcome too.
• Heather - Door unlocked this morning. If you step out and no one is here please lock door.

Excellence

Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other.

What does that mean? Please see our page on excellence https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence!

WZ: Be excellent, be kind, treat others how you'd like to be treated.

Anti-Harassment Policy & Community Standards of Excellence

Noisebridge has an Anti-Harassment Policy!

Everyone is expected to follow the Anti-Harassment Policy, please familiarize yourself with it.)

For approachable & specific guidelines see: Community Standards

Please note: https://safespace.noisebridge.net/ is one way to quickly raise issues which will be seen by people in Discord.

Brief Kudos

WZ: Derek put the wall up in the bath room so folks can use the downstairs restroom with a sense of privacy.

Daniel: Derek also started scrubbing the floor in the break area

WZ: Micahel Newman has been working hard making the sewing guild more usable.

Jet: Michael Newman gets another kudos for helping friend debug something

Daniel: Elan farted on a racist

Consensus Items

(discussion item #1 was discussed here - see section below. no big-C Consensus items.)

Access Member requests

Marian: Recently moved to the city. Like building things. Into philanthropy.

Jet: would be comfertable kicking someone out?

Marian: Yes, what is the limit to that?

Jet: If someone is kicking and screaming you dont have to do anything crazy

Marian: Cool

Drynn: I finished making the sock at 5 am and would have had to leave if not access member.

Jet: Would you ever sleep at nb?

Drynn: thats what the car is for.

Julius: Less than a month is very quick to gain access memebership, One of the things we need is consistancy from members before gaining memebership.

Jeremy: Been coming for th past 3 months, Looking for the lazer machine, Heard about the place a few years ago. I would like to gain access because id like to come in the mornings.

Michael Newman: Is there any particular area of the space you are interested in?

Jeremy: I use laser quite a lot and clean up the area. Interested in woodshop. Usually here 2 - 3 hours

Jet: Any objections?

• no objections*

Victor: Been in and out for few years. More active in last few months. Would like to host some meetups, particularly on nixOS.

Jet: What do you think about noisebridge?

Victor: Amazing I love it.

Newman: What could be better about nb?

Victor: Maybe more diversity

Jet: Any objections?

• no objections *

Azael: Looking for memebership, Ive been coming for about two years. Im interested in learning about 3d printing and new python meetups.

Jet: Why do you want access membership, are you trying to come later or ealier?

Azael: Yes, i wasnt sure if it was open everyday in the afternnon.

Jet: have you ever been to a tuesday meeting

Azeal: This is my first

Daniel: We can give you a 30 day card

Jet: This is ment to give you access in the morning 9am - 9pm, dont let people in and youre not supposed to close the space.

Jet: well get you the 30 day card

Discussion Items

1: "Consensus Process" page

On topic	"Consensus Process" page
From/Raised by	Heather
Seeking	edit approval

Heather: Live page about consensus process contains expired language. Text posted on discord.

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Consensus_Process#Our_Version_of_Consensus

The language in question:

Blocking big C consensus item requires 2 members provisionally august 29th 2023. At which time we can will consense again.

Non member, big C consense items must be unanimous.

New membership must be unanimous.

Any member can place a 1 week hold to give time for second blocker to come forward.

Big C consensus items must be posted somewhere everyone can see, hackatorium or general channels.

Heather: This unanimous sentences seem to be redundant given the consensus process.

Elan: There was a change (that has since sunsetted) that required two people to block which means that something could pass with a single block.

JD: The language was there for a reason, ie. people were blocking without giving reasons.

Jet: This isn't really a big-C item but more of a consultation to clarify.

LX: some things on the wiki are expired and should be saved if they need to be used again, I label them instead of purging them.

Daniel: We have version control

2: Recent ATL

On topic	Recent ATL
From/Raised by	Jet, Julius, Heather
Seeking

Jet: Current access case of ATL - Potea - He

Julius: He rang the doorbell asking for some binders that he's left behind

Heather: This is the second or third time this has happened

Jet: would like to cover what has happened and what we would like to do about.

Heather: He has a habit of being found unconscious. Apparently sleeping in the space. Has been found sleeping numerous times. Has been ATL'd before. A 1 day ATL and a 3 day ATL. Saturday found him sleeping in the space. I ATL. While packing up to leave, and asked if he could ATL us to leave. Discussion assumed. We said didn't think valid. Asked if it was written down. Kevin backed up. Didn't explain why he was asking us to leave. Did eventually leave. On Sunday we see him in the courtyard. Asked why he was there. Said was waiting for someone to let him in. Posted on discord he was there. Explicitly said we're extending the ATL. Told him not cooperating with ATL would be a bad idea. He seemed confused. After we explained to him he did leave. Briefly rang door bell and asked for things. Monday he sent an emailing saying he did not know where to post. Today he responded with why he asked us to leave.

Jet: Since then he sent some emails and messages and a letter...they are all of a similar notion...He's in the past dealt with many medical, law, and magical ways. he describes his own conscious and sleeping as a state of paralysis,

Daniel: A few weeks ago we talked about if someone is not able to stay conscious in the space, we cant make exceptions. Poteea also said that he tried to ATL heather because of something that happened a month ago, This timeline doesn't work and he was trying to garner some sympathy.

Jet: He has not been diagnosed by any medical pro, He has admitted.

Heather: Based on some interactions, He might be cautious to any medical treatment

Jet: We uphold that any reason (for sleeping in the space) Is not acceptable reasons for being asleep in the space.

Jet: What should we do about this?

Heather: The last 3 paragraphs of his most recent thing sound discriminatory

Julius: Clearly there is something about his thinking that is disordered. Its not are responsibility to determine what that is. I think that he has shown he is not a good fit for this space.

Elan: We don't need to pile on with every grievance, i do think a lot of the things hes facing are episodes hes going through. I don't think this space is a good place for addressing these episodes.

Miriam: This is the second time it felt like a threat from his words.

Michael: Nothing that's been read was him admitting fault, or attempting to change his behavior.

Heather: Responding to Elan's point - The dense wording he wrote is annoying but so be it, and there are some insults that don't raise a safety concern... but the last three paragraphs are personally offensive.

Michael Newman: I've spent much time with Poitier but still see his actions as warranting him not being allowed in the space

Elan: We face real financial consequences of people sleeping in the space, and it also repels people from coming to the space to hack

JD: When I give a tour, I explain the ATL process...If you see someone asking someone to leave...you back them up. If someone is in the wrong, it will be obvious.

Loren: Noting a resource focus when interacting with Poitier. 86 is not a consensus process.

Jet: He is 86'd

3: NoiseGarden

On topic	NoiseGarden
From/Raised by	Elan
Seeking	funds

Elan: I'm asking for money, NB has digital infra, to access its a pain, we want to host a bunch of cool things...It would be nice to have a reliable place to do it. We want a bootstrap node to live somewhere reliable. 15 - $20 a month to host thins. we have a git, vpn, and Oauth service, its currently on a account with my credit card, Id like it to be fully on NB control.

Newman: why is it named noisegarden?

Elan: Server FARM but it's small and unprofessional so it's a server GARDEN

Domain Registrar(noisegarden.nexus): ~$20/year Hetzner(Server, DNS, S3-backup): ~$10-15/month

No objections

Loren: Can we suggest a billing headline on Hetzner?

Elan: 20+ tax

4: Preemptive Bans

On topic	Preemptive Bans
From/Raised by	Elan
Seeking	clarification

Elan: If people do things that are unexcellent in the space they get 86'd...If someone is banned in a reciprocal space, they could be banned here... I'm curious if that's still the understanding? What is the community stance on bans for people that are known for commuting acts we deem unexcellent?

Jet: Could you give example?

Elan: Like what if someone was sexually assaulted at a party?

Jet: I would be interested in expanding this. We should collect banlists from other make spaces.

Julius: I'm worried this might be a slippery slope.

JD: We do have reciprocal ban agreements with other spaces (pseudoroom) I'm not clear on what the ask is here....

Elan: In totally unrelated news, I have formed a makerspace called "Elan's Makerspace of Unexcellent Hackers" and am asking for a reciprocal banlist agreement.

Miriam: Im broadly in favor of the idea , Id like more clear scoping, are we doing background checks on people we let in or ?

Jet: Theres an exsisting trust within the community that we should back up ATL's, because this has not been a problem yet, we can come to it when it does.

JD: Again, what exactly are we asking/proposing here? What is the action?

Heather: I suspect Elan might be bringing this up due to an interaction we had with a prospective new noisebridger.

Jet: ATL is transmitted orally amonst us. 86 is written down.

Jet: This is a good use of ATL.

5: NixOS Meetup

On topic	NixOS Meetup
From/Raised by	Victor
Seeking	decision/advice

Victor: I would like to host a NixOS meetup next Wednesday.

Jet: We have a checklist for this. How many people do you expect to attend?

Victor: 20

Jet: Need furniture?

Victor: No

Jet: Serving alcohol?

Victor: No

Jet: Will there be a fee?

Victor: No

Jet: playing music?

Victor: No

Jet: Any reason for us to be skeptical?

Victor: No

Jet: Ok sounds good

Do-ocratic Task Board

Participation also means doing stuff to contribute to the space. Propose new tasks or pick some tasks from Github, from what needs to be done around you, or whatever, and see if someone will sign up to work on that task. Anyone can sign up and it's a great way to show you are contributing!