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- 1 NOISEBRIDGE HACKER TRIP TO CHINA #7-- Start Date: 8-October-2017, in Hong Kong-- End Date: 28-October-2017, in Shanghai
- 1.1 Previous Hacker Trips To China
- 1.2 This year's Hacker Trip To China
- 1.3 Itinerary outline for Hacker Trip to China 7
- 1.4 Very Useful Guide about Internet, Phones, Translation, and Navigation
- 1.5 Hong Kong Guide
- 1.6 Photos and articles from Hacker Trip To China 2017
- 1.7 Photos from Hacker Trip To China 2016
- 1.8 Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2015
- 1.9 Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2014
- 1.10 You will Need a Chinese Visa!!
- 2 Previous Noisebridge China Trips
- 3 People interested in going on the Hacker Trip to China #7, 2017:
NOISEBRIDGE HACKER TRIP TO CHINA #7
-- Start Date: 8-October-2017, in Hong Kong
-- End Date: 28-October-2017, in Shanghai
There is going to be a Hacker Trip To China 2018! Here is its wiki page:
Previous Hacker Trips To China
- This will be the 7th Noisebridge Hacker Trip To China.
- (The dates are set, the start and end cities are set, but the itinerary is an outline and open to change.)
- In previous years' Hacker Trip To China, we've visited cities that currently have a hackerspace, visited my manufacturer, Seeed Studio, and other manufacturers. We also visited Tsinghua University, considered the most prestigious university in China, and other schools -- all of which have now starting hackerspaces. China continues to explode with hackerspaces! We also went to the International Exhibition of Inventions Kunshan (IEIK 2014), near Shanghai. And everywhere we went, we were shown around by local geeks, to see what they thought was interesting where they live. Also, wherever we went, those of us interested gave talks, presentations, workshops, and demos. In 2016 we gave presentations at NY University - Shanghai, DFRobot (an open hardware company in Shanghai), Shanghai Maker Carnival, Zhengzhou High School Number 2, "Second Generation and Start-ups" conference in Hangzhou.
- This will be the 7th Noisebridge Hacker Trip To China.
- -- Mitch.
This year's Hacker Trip To China
When: 8-October-2017 in Hong Kong through 28-October-2017 in Shanghai.
Flight, transportation, and hotel Info: We were each be on our own to book our own air fare to meet in our starting city, Hong Kong, on 8-October, and fly home from out ending city, Shanghai, on 28-October. Of course, you can decide to come and go as you please.
I'll organized the itinerary and the hotels and other transport. I'll pay in advance for some of this, and you can pay me back when we're in China.
Where: In each of the cities we will go to, we'll visit some of their local hackerspace(s), and will be shown around by local geeks to see what interested them where they live. We'll also have plenty of time to do "normal" (and spectacular) tourist things too!
Here's some possible places we might visit, leaving plenty of room for the serendipity that makes our Hacker Trip To China truly unique and memorable:
- We will start our trip by meeting in Hong Kong and visit Dim Sum Labs hackerspace. Hong Kong is a fantastic city, so, we'll also see lots of other cool stuff in Hong Kong. Hong Kong Guide
- Then we'll go across the border to mainland China again, to Shenzhen to visit Chaihuo Makerspace, SZDIY hackerspace, Litchee Lab, and a few other hackerspaces, some of which are real, and hundreds of which are brand new (this year) over-the-top bizarre government-started places where they want to create "the next Apple" (we won't visit them all!). We'll visit x.factory while we are in town, an interesting mix of hackerspace and incubator, where we will be welcomed for a Bring-A-Hack event, where anyone of us (for those who want to), along with the general public, can show off their projects. We will also visit Seeed Studio - the open source hardware company - to meet the cool folks there and to see their manufacturing facilities. We may meet with the founders of Dangerous Prototypes - another open source hardware company. We'll also visit other manufacturers, to see where all the things we use in our daily lives come from (such as springs, cables, PCBs, packaging, etc., etc.). We can also visit Dorabot, a Chinese robotics company comprised of people in the Shenzhen hackerspace scene. Of course, we'll also visit the famous (and totally awesome!) Huaqiangbei electronics market in Shenzhen (where, we may again be shown around by a professional buyer from Deal Extreme (dx.com). And if email@example.com happens to be in town, we might visit Constellation or even stay in their factory dorm.
- We will then make our way to Beijing where we may visit Beijing Makerspace, and other hackerspaces. We'll also visit Tsinghua University, where they built the world's largest hackerspace last year (called the "iCenter"), and where I've been hacker in residence. Beijing has lots and lots of way amazing stuff to visit and be a part of!
- Our last city will be Shanghai. In Shanghai we will visit my manufacturer (Etonnet) that I have used for TV-B-Gone remote controls and NeuroDreamer sleep masks, where we will all get to see how products are made, from start to finish, learning how manufacturing works. We will also visit XinCheJian hackerspace in Shanghai. We can also visit companies started by hardware hacker geeks, such as DFRobot. We can visit Phicomm, a medium-sized OEM manufacturer. We can also visit the Shanghai electronics mall (a smaller version of the famous electronics mall we will later visit in Shenzhen).
For most of us, our trip will end at the end of three weeks, as many people on our trip will fly home from our last city, Shanghai, on 28-October-2017.
Of course, everyone is free to arrive and leave whenever you like for the Hacker Trip To China.
I will tentatively be flying home from Shanghai 28-October.
Cost: For the Hacker Trip To China 2016, I paid $1,997 total (for 4 weeks), including air fare from SF, food, lodging, transportation, and everything -- including some electronics stuff and some clothing that I bought.
As in past years, part of this year's trip may be paid for by Tsinghua University and other places that invite us to give presentations.
#hashtag: #httc2017 (Hacker Trip To China 2017)
Itinerary outline for Hacker Trip to China 7
The start and end dates are set, the start and end cities are set, but the rest of the itinerary is open to serendipity:
7-October-2017 -- Leave home for Hong Kong (arrive in Hong Kong on 8-October) 8-October-2017 -- We all meet in Hong Kong -- hotel: various in Tsim Sha Tsui 8-October to 11-October -- Hong Kong 8-October, 8pm: Group dinner, TST 9-October, 12pm: Walk around with William Liang (Maker Hive, escalators, snacks) 9-October, 3pm-4pm: Veggie Sushi(!) in Prince Edwards (104 Lai Chi Kok Road) 9-October, 4:30pm: visit Looking Glass (startup that makes 3D video) 9-October, 6pm-8:30pm: visit Maker Bay, Yau Tong, with presentations 9-October, 10pm-, Wan Chai drinks 10-October, 10am-3pm: Free time sightseeing Prince Edwards (Temple Street Tin Hau Temple, Women Market, Bird Garden, Gold Fish market) 10-October, 3pm-5pm: Dim Sum (walk from Prince): Tim Ho Wan in Sham Shui Po 10-October, 5pm-7pm: Apliu Street Flea market, Spycams, Golden Computer center 10-October, 8pm-10pm: visit Dim Sum Labs, soldering workshop by Mitch, HackJam on rooftop 10-October, 12pm: LKF - Lan Kwai Fong bars 11-October, afternoon -- ferry or subway to Shenzhen 11-October to 16-October -- Shenzhen 11-October -- hotel: Jinjiang Inn Shenzhen Huaqiang North 11-October, 8pm: Group Dinner at Yunlaiju Vegetarian Restaurant 12-October, 10am-12pm: Product Life Cycle class at NOA Labs 12-October, 1pm-5pm: tour of Huaqiangbei (electronics markets) w/ Scotty (of Strange Parts), and others 12-October, afternoon: visit Troublemaker hackerspaces in Huaqianbei 12-October, 6:30pm: meetup at HAX -- Mitch gives presentation what worked (and didn't work) well with his TV-B-Gone startup -- others welcome to give presentations on their startup dos and don't-dos 13-October, 8am: leave hotel for visit to Seeed Studio AMC and factory tours (two separate groups) 13-October: Group A factory tour: Seeed Studio AMC, Zealfull (PCB), Jercio (LED), Honpe (plastic injection molding) 13-October: Group B factory tour: Seeed Studio AMC, Ashcloud (packing), King Brother (PCB), AMC (plastic injection molding) 13-October: 7pm: return to hotel from tour of factories (two separate groups) 14-October, 2pm: visit Dorabot (open hardware robot company) 14-October, 6pm-8pm: visit Lab 0x0 -- give demos! 15-October, 4pm-6pm: Chaihuo x.factory Bring-A-Hack 16-October, 10:00am -- train G822 to Xi'an 16-October to 19-October -- Xi'an 16-October -- hotel: Vienna Hotel 17-October, 9am-5pm: ShaanXi Makerspace tour and presentations 17-October, 5pm-8pm: special dinner 18-October, 8:30am-10am: Xi'an Innovation and Design Center Maker's Symposium 18-October, 10am-8pm: Xi'an traditional maker and culture hands-on tour 19-October, 12:42pm -- train G658 to Beijing 19-October to 24-October -- Beijing 19-October -- hotel: various: in hutongs NE of Jinshan Park 20-October, 1:30pm: Tsinghua University iCenter 21-October, 12pm: art galleries and 798 with Gloria 23-October, 1:30pm: meet-and-greet with Tsinghua University students 23-October, 5pm: visit Makebator 23-October, 6pm-9pm: Beijing LUG dinner and meeting 24-October, 2:00pm -- train G3 to Shanghai 24-October to 28-October -- Shanghai 24-October -- hotel: Le Tour Traveler's Rest International Youth Hostel 25-October, 3pm-4pm: [Messed this up by going to the wrong NYU campus] meet-and-greet at Interactive Media Arts (IMA) at NYU Shanghai 26-October, morning: visit Yagr/Etonnet (Mitch's manufacturer) 26-October, evening: DFRobot/Mushroom Cloud visit and presentations 27-October, 7pm-9pm: XinCheJian Global Forum -- presentations by 13 if us 28-October-2017 -- fly home (arrive NA or EU on same day)
One of the two Noah's who are on the HTTC2017 wrote this very useful guide!
Hong Kong Guide
Photos and articles from Hacker Trip To China 2017
Mitch's photos from Hong Kong, Oct-2017
Mitch's photos from Shenzhen, Oct-2017
Mitch's photos from Xi'an, Oct-2017
Mitch's photos from Beijing, Oct-2017
Mitch's photos from Shanghai, Oct-2017
Mitch's photos from Beijing Set 2, Oct-2017
Baidu News Search about the China US Maker Tour in Xi'an
Courtesy of Noah. We got to meet the mayor and it was a big deal locally!
Ruth's articles about factory and makerspace tours
- I want to make an almond candy machine! (Sourcing project parts at the Shanghai SEG Electronics Market)
- Visiting MakerBay in Hong Kong
- Whirlwind tour! Seed studio, pi-top, LED factory in Shenzhen
- My one day plastic engineer apprenticeship (Shenzhen)
- Sungang wholesale toy and stationary market in Shenzhen
- DFRobot | Mushroom Cloud Maker Space Visit (Shanghai)
- World’s biggest makerspace: iCenter at Tsinghua University
Photos from Hacker Trip To China 2016
Mitch's photos from Shanghai, Oct-2016
Mitch's photos from Zhengzhou, Oct-2016
Mitch's photos from Shenzhen, Oct-2016
Mitch's photos from Beijing, Oct-2016
Mitch's photos from Hangzhou, Oct-2016
Mitch's photos from Beijing Set 2, Oct-2016
Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2015
Mitch's photos from Hong Kong, Oct-2015
Mitch's photos from Shenzhen, Oct-2015
Mitch's photos from Shanghai, Oct-2015
Mitch's photos from Beijing, Oct-2015
Mitch's photos from YiWu & Hangzhou, Oct-2015
Mitch's photos from Beijing Set 2, Oct-2015
Mitch's photos from Shanghai & Suzhou, Oct-2015
Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2014
Mitch's photos from Beijing, Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Shanghai, Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Shenzhen, Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Kunshan, Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Shanghai (2), Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Beijing (2), Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Tianjin, Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Beijing (3), Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Singapore, Dec-2014
You will Need a Chinese Visa!!
To go to China, you needed to get a visa!
Everyone should get a multiple-entry Tourist L visa (if you only get a single-entry visa, you'll be fine, but you won't have as many options, such as going in and out of Shenzhen to Hong Kong).
- And to get a visa, you need to have a passport that is valid at least 12 months after you planned to fly away from China (so, e.g., if you are leaving China on 28-October-2017, then your passport needs to be valid through 27-October-2017). Your passport must also have at least one entirely blank page.
- You also need:
- a printout of a filled-out Visa Application Form V. 2013 of the People's Republic of China (after we have everything we need I'll email you my filled out form as an example to follow).
- a copy of the information pages of your passport.
- a copy of your most Chinese visa (if you have been to China before).
- one 2"x2" recent color photo (not a printout).
- a screenshot or printout of hotel reservation confirmation (I'll email this to you when I have this).
- a copy of your airline tickets (both to and from China).
- For US citizens, the visa cost $140 (much cheaper for other nationalities). Starting this year, US citizens can get a multiple-entry visa, good for 10 years. We should all apply for a Tourist L visa.
You can pay the fee by Visa, MasterCard, Money Order, Cashier's Check or Company Check. Cash or Personal checks are not acceptable.
To get a visa, you can go to your local Chinese consulate. No appointment is required. You go in one day, and it will be ready for pick up 4 business days later. My experience is that it takes about an hour the first day, and takes only a few minutes to pick up the visa a few days later. (2 to 3 business-day and 1 business day/same-day express service is available for $20 or $30.)
NOTE: The Chinese consulates are all closed for holidays on: 27-30 January, 29-30 May, 30-May, 9-June, 4-July, 4-September, 2-October, 9-October and other dates:
2017 Chinese Consulate Holiday Schedule
(Citizens of US and Europe do not need a separate visa for Hong Kong.)
Previous Noisebridge China Trips
If you're curious about the previous Noisebridge China Trips, they have their own wiki pages:
Hacker Trip To China 2009
That first Noisebridge China Trip was inspired by Bunny Huang's "geek tour".
Hacker Trip To China 2011
Hacker Trip to China 2013
Hacker Trip to China 2014
Hacker Trip to China 2015
Hacker Trip to China 2016
People interested in going on the Hacker Trip to China #7, 2017:
Below is a list of people interested in going on this year's Hacker Trip To China.
You do not need to be a member of Noisebridge to go on this trip!
Please email me if you have any questions, or if you would like to meet up with us on the trip:
mitch *AT* CornfieldElectronics *DOT* com
The trip is limited to 20 people total (including Mitch)
-- the first 19 people (after Mitch) who are either there already, or who bought tickets to meet in our Trip's starting city (Hong Kong) on or before 8-October-2017 are the people who are in this Trip
(which probably means flying away from home on or before 7-October)
Note: Many people have gotten good deals on their plane fares (including me) with the help of my friend Vlad at:
Feel free to email me, and I'll send your email to Vlad, who will be happy to help you with your flights.
|Name||Purchased flight?||Flight info|
|1||Mitch Altman (Noisebridge, San Francisco, USA)||YES||Arrive: Hong Kong on 6-Oct at 17:10 -- flight CX254 (from LHR)|
|2||Robert Fitzsimons (TOG, Ireland)||YES||Arrive: Hong Kong on 8-Oct at 15:25 -- flight EK382 (from DXB)|
Depart: Shanghai at 00:05 on Oct 29th (EK8303)
|3||Noah O'Donoghue||YES||Arrive: Hong Kong on 8-Oct|
|4||Elle||YES||Arrive: I'm arriving on the 6th and have my own AirBNB until the 8th in Sheung Wan. I'll meet you all on the 8th. :)|
|5||Jonas S Karlsson||YES||Arrive: (live in HK)|
|6||Jan Marloth (fablab munich, Germany)||YES||Arrive: Hong Kong on 8-Oct at 7:20am -- flight SK963 (from ARN)|
Depart: Beijing at 14:50 on Oct 24th (SK996)
|7||Sasja (hackerspace.gent)||YES||Arrive: Hong Kong 8-Oct at 8:55am, |
Depart: 28-Oct from Shanghai Hongqiao Airport at 20:55
|8||Ed Buckley||YES||Arrive: Hong Kong 6-Oct at 1:45pm -- flight NH809 (from NRT)|
|9||Rafael Câmera Santos (Fazedores.com, Brazil)||YES||Arrive: Hong Kong 8-Oct at 18:10 -- Flight UA 895 -- Leaving on 9-Nov from Hong Kong|
|10||Felix E. Klee||YES||Arrive: Hong Kong on 4-Oct at 09:45 -- flight SU0212 (from SVO)|
|11||Svein Berge||YES||Arrive: UO 1647 from Tokyo, scheduled arrival Oct 8, 23:00.|
|12||Krzysztof Stasiak||YES||Arrive: HK 6th Oct - flight AK138 from Kuala Lumpur|
|13||Mark Hellar||YES||Arrive:Hong Kong HKG 6:45 PM October 8th|
|14||Eric Boyd (Hacklab.TO, Toronto)||YES||Arrive: Hong Kong, Oct 8th 2:25pm EVA Airways BR869. Leave: Shanghai, Oct 28th 1:10pm Eva Airways, BR711|
|15||Ruth Grace Wong||YES||Arrive: October 9, Hong Kong, Leave: October 28, Shanghai|
|16||Hari C M (HasGeek, Bangalore, India)||YES||Arrive: 'Hong Kong on 7-Oct at 06:50 -- flight AI-314 (from DEL)|
Depart: Shanghai at 22:00 on Oct 29th (AI-349)
|17||freeman murray||YES||Arrive: Oct 7, Hong Kong American airlines 193.|
|18||Sumukh Shetty||YES||Arrive: 6th October HK, join for the entire trip|
|19||Gary Hatfield||YES||Arrive: Hong Kong Oct. 5|
|20||Michał Gajda||YES||Arrive: Flight to HK on Oct 3rd|
|21||Noah Swartz||YES||Arrive: 11:45 on Oct 9 on HK Express UO 1845|
|22||Bas||YES||Arrive: Oct 6, Hong Kong|
|23||Kaushik Reddy||yes||Arrive: Hong Kong on 8 Oct |
Depart: Hong Kong on 15 Oct
HK & SZ only
|24||Jeroen Van Beirendonck (Open Garage, Belgium)||yes||Arrive: Hong Kong on 7th Oct |
Depart: Hong Kong on 15 Oct
HK & SZ only
|25||Cedric Honnet (Datapaulette hackerspace - Paris, Fr.)||yes||Arrive: Hong Kong on 6 Oct |
Depart: Hong Kong on 21 Oct
HK & SZ only
|26||Mayank M.||yes||Arrive: Arriving in Hong Kong on 10/7. Flying out of Hong Kong on 10/17|
HK & SZ only
|27||Olivier de Saint-Hubert||yes||Arrive: ???|
|28||Anthony Liekens (Open Garage, Belgium)||yes||Arrive: KL 4013 to arrive in Shenzhen on Oct 11, 18:00|
Depart: From Shenzhen on Oct 18, 10:00
|29||Daan Gerits (Open Garage, Belgium)||yes||Arrive: KL 4013 to arrive in Shenzhen on Oct 11, 18:00|
|30||Tim Lathouwers||yes||Arrive: arrive in Shenzhen on Oct 11|
|31||Kate Hartman||yes||Arrive: I will be working in Shanghai the week of October 9th. Would love to join you in Shenzhen Oct 14/15/16|
|32||Scotty Allen||yes||Arrive: Oct 11, Shenzhen -- will arrange own housing|
|33||Gloria Chiang||no||Arrive: Beijing on (date TBD)|
|34||Marc Juul||no||Arrive: Beijing on (date TBD)|
|35||Quijano Flores -- PLEASE EMAIL ME||no||Arrive: Oct 8, Hong Kong|
|36||SYED JUNAID AHMED (Makers Hive, AndhraPradesh, INDIA)||no||Arrive: TBD|
|37||Rahul S Rajan (Kerala Startup Mission, India)||no||Arrive: TBD|
|38||Sasha Iatsenia||no||Arrive: TBD|
|39||Trent||no||Arrive: your arrival date and city here|
|40||Arseniy Klempner||no||Arrive: Oct 8, Hong Kong|
|41||Thomas Disley||no||Arrive: shenzhen & shanghai, arrival TBD|
|42||Adam Munich - SF_Noisebridge, Oakland_Sudoroom ]||no||Arrive: To be determined|
|43||Sreejith Mohanan -- PLEASE EMAIL ME||no||Arrive: TBD|
|44||Colin Willson -- PLEASE EMAIL ME||no||Arrive: TBD|
|45||Gene Brock||no||Arrive: Thai AirAsia FD508 from Don Mueang Int'l Airport (Bangkok) to HKG Sep 30th 6:30am arriving 10:30 am in HKG.|
|46||Michal Stefanow||no||Arrive: TBD|
OUCH - I guess I'm too late - JOMO - joy of missing out - it means more quality time working on https://astralship.org coworking coliving chapel in Wales, come and visit us sometimes. I might be able to visit HK and SZ and get a new laptop with larger storage, Ethereum blockchain size is not manageable on my current machine. Much love, ping me anytime: firstname.lastname@example.org