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-- Start Date: 8-October-2017, in Hong Kong
-- End Date: 28-October-2017, in Shanghai
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Note: This page is about an event that has already happened. It took place on 2017-10-08 to 2017-10-28. | Edit

There is going to be a Hacker Trip To China 2018! Here is its wiki page:

Trip #4 Welcome to China!, Beijing
Trip #3 Kung Fu Hacking: Hackers In Residence Kickoff event at Tsinghua University, Beijing
Trip #2 Visit to Petrochemical Univeristy, Beijing
Trip #1 Jingshan Park, Beijing
Trip #5 Visit to Seeed Studio's factory, Shenzhen
Trip #5 Presentations at Zhengzhou High School #2, Zhengzhou

Previous Hacker Trips To China[edit | edit source]

This will be the 7th Noisebridge Hacker Trip To China.
(The dates are set, the start and end cities are set, but the itinerary is an outline and open to change.)
In previous years' Hacker Trip To China, we've visited cities that currently have a hackerspace, visited my manufacturer, Seeed Studio, and other manufacturers. We also visited Tsinghua University, considered the most prestigious university in China, and other schools -- all of which have now starting hackerspaces. China continues to explode with hackerspaces! We also went to the International Exhibition of Inventions Kunshan (IEIK 2014), near Shanghai. And everywhere we went, we were shown around by local geeks, to see what they thought was interesting where they live. Also, wherever we went, those of us interested gave talks, presentations, workshops, and demos. In 2016 we gave presentations at NY University - Shanghai, DFRobot (an open hardware company in Shanghai), Shanghai Maker Carnival, Zhengzhou High School Number 2, "Second Generation and Start-ups" conference in Hangzhou.
You can see info on the Hacker Trip To China 2009,
Hacker Trip To China 2011
Hacker Trip To China 2013
Hacker Trip To China 2014
Hacker Trip To China 2015
Hacker Trip To China 2016,
-- Mitch.

This year's Hacker Trip To China[edit | edit source]

When: 8-October-2017 in Hong Kong through 28-October-2017 in Shanghai.

Flight, transportation, and hotel Info: We were each be on our own to book our own air fare to meet in our starting city, Hong Kong, on 8-October, and fly home from out ending city, Shanghai, on 28-October. Of course, you can decide to come and go as you please.

I'll organized the itinerary and the hotels and other transport. I'll pay in advance for some of this, and you can pay me back when we're in China.

Where: In each of the cities we will go to, we'll visit some of their local hackerspace(s), and will be shown around by local geeks to see what interested them where they live. We'll also have plenty of time to do "normal" (and spectacular) tourist things too!

Here's some possible places we might visit, leaving plenty of room for the serendipity that makes our Hacker Trip To China truly unique and memorable:

  • We will start our trip by meeting in Hong Kong and visit Dim Sum Labs hackerspace. Hong Kong is a fantastic city, so, we'll also see lots of other cool stuff in Hong Kong. Hong Kong Guide
  • Then we'll go across the border to mainland China again, to Shenzhen to visit Chaihuo Makerspace, SZDIY hackerspace, Litchee Lab, and a few other hackerspaces, some of which are real, and hundreds of which are brand new (this year) over-the-top bizarre government-started places where they want to create "the next Apple" (we won't visit them all!). We'll visit x.factory while we are in town, an interesting mix of hackerspace and incubator, where we will be welcomed for a Bring-A-Hack event, where anyone of us (for those who want to), along with the general public, can show off their projects. We will also visit Seeed Studio - the open source hardware company - to meet the cool folks there and to see their manufacturing facilities. We may meet with the founders of Dangerous Prototypes - another open source hardware company. We'll also visit other manufacturers, to see where all the things we use in our daily lives come from (such as springs, cables, PCBs, packaging, etc., etc.). We can also visit Dorabot, a Chinese robotics company comprised of people in the Shenzhen hackerspace scene. Of course, we'll also visit the famous (and totally awesome!) Huaqiangbei electronics market in Shenzhen (where, we may again be shown around by a professional buyer from Deal Extreme ( And if happens to be in town, we might visit Constellation or even stay in their factory dorm.
  • We will then make our way to Beijing where we may visit Beijing Makerspace, and other hackerspaces. We'll also visit Tsinghua University, where they built the world's largest hackerspace last year (called the "iCenter"), and where I've been hacker in residence. Beijing has lots and lots of way amazing stuff to visit and be a part of!
  • Our last city will be Shanghai. In Shanghai we will visit my manufacturer (Etonnet) that I have used for TV-B-Gone remote controls and NeuroDreamer sleep masks, where we will all get to see how products are made, from start to finish, learning how manufacturing works. We will also visit XinCheJian hackerspace in Shanghai. We can also visit companies started by hardware hacker geeks, such as DFRobot. We can visit Phicomm, a medium-sized OEM manufacturer. We can also visit the Shanghai electronics mall (a smaller version of the famous electronics mall we will later visit in Shenzhen).

For most of us, our trip will end at the end of three weeks, as many people on our trip will fly home from our last city, Shanghai, on 28-October-2017.

Of course, everyone is free to arrive and leave whenever you like for the Hacker Trip To China.
I will tentatively be flying home from Shanghai 28-October.

Cost: For the Hacker Trip To China 2016, I paid $1,997 total (for 4 weeks), including air fare from SF, food, lodging, transportation, and everything -- including some electronics stuff and some clothing that I bought.
As in past years, part of this year's trip may be paid for by Tsinghua University and other places that invite us to give presentations.

#hashtag: #httc2017      (Hacker Trip To China 2017)

Itinerary outline for Hacker Trip to China 7[edit | edit source]

The start and end dates are set, the start and end cities are set, but the rest of the itinerary is open to serendipity:

7-October-2017 -- Leave home for Hong Kong (arrive in Hong Kong on 8-October)
8-October-2017 -- We all meet in Hong Kong -- hotel:  various in Tsim Sha Tsui
8-October to 11-October -- Hong Kong
8-October, 8pm:  Group dinner, TST
9-October, 12pm:  Walk around with William Liang (Maker Hive, escalators, snacks)
9-October, 3pm-4pm: Veggie Sushi(!) in Prince Edwards (104 Lai Chi Kok Road)
9-October, 4:30pm:  visit Looking Glass (startup that makes 3D video)
9-October, 6pm-8:30pm:  visit Maker Bay, Yau Tong, with presentations
9-October, 10pm-, Wan Chai drinks
10-October, 10am-3pm: Free time sightseeing Prince Edwards
              (Temple Street Tin Hau Temple, Women Market, Bird Garden, Gold Fish market)
10-October, 3pm-5pm: Dim Sum (walk from Prince): Tim Ho Wan in Sham Shui Po
10-October, 5pm-7pm: Apliu Street Flea market, Spycams, Golden Computer center
10-October, 8pm-10pm: visit Dim Sum Labs, soldering workshop by Mitch, HackJam on rooftop
10-October, 12pm: LKF - Lan Kwai Fong bars
11-October, afternoon -- ferry or subway to Shenzhen
11-October to 16-October -- Shenzhen
11-October -- hotel:  Jinjiang Inn Shenzhen Huaqiang North
11-October, 8pm:  Group Dinner at Yunlaiju Vegetarian Restaurant
12-October, 10am-12pm:  Product Life Cycle class at NOA Labs
12-October, 1pm-5pm:  tour of Huaqiangbei (electronics markets) w/ Scotty (of Strange Parts), and others
12-October, afternoon:  visit Troublemaker hackerspaces in Huaqianbei
12-October, 6:30pm:  meetup at HAX -- Mitch gives presentation what worked (and didn't work) well with his TV-B-Gone startup -- others welcome to give presentations on their startup dos and don't-dos
13-October, 8am:  leave hotel for visit to Seeed Studio AMC and factory tours (two separate groups)
13-October:  Group A factory tour:  Seeed Studio AMC, Zealfull (PCB), Jercio (LED), Honpe (plastic injection molding) 
13-October:  Group B factory tour:  Seeed Studio AMC, Ashcloud (packing), King Brother (PCB), AMC (plastic injection molding)
13-October:  7pm:  return to hotel from tour of factories (two separate groups)
14-October, 2pm:  visit Dorabot (open hardware robot company) 
14-October, 6pm-8pm:  visit Lab 0x0 -- give demos! 
15-October, 4pm-6pm:  Chaihuo x.factory Bring-A-Hack
16-October, 10:00am -- train G822 to Xi'an
16-October to 19-October -- Xi'an
16-October -- hotel:  Vienna Hotel
17-October, 9am-5pm:  ShaanXi Makerspace tour and presentations
17-October, 5pm-8pm:  special dinner
18-October, 8:30am-10am:  Xi'an Innovation and Design Center Maker's Symposium
18-October, 10am-8pm:  Xi'an traditional maker and culture hands-on tour
19-October, 12:42pm -- train G658 to Beijing
19-October to 24-October -- Beijing
19-October -- hotel:  various: in hutongs NE of Jinshan Park
20-October, 1:30pm:  Tsinghua University iCenter
21-October, 12pm:  art galleries and 798 with Gloria
23-October, 1:30pm:  meet-and-greet with Tsinghua University students
23-October, 5pm:  visit Makebator
23-October, 6pm-9pm:  Beijing LUG dinner and meeting
24-October, 2:00pm -- train G3 to Shanghai
24-October to 28-October -- Shanghai 
24-October -- hotel:  Le Tour Traveler's Rest International Youth Hostel
25-October, 3pm-4pm:  [Messed this up by going to the wrong NYU campus] meet-and-greet at Interactive Media Arts (IMA) at NYU Shanghai
26-October, morning:  visit Yagr/Etonnet (Mitch's manufacturer)
26-October, evening:  DFRobot/Mushroom Cloud visit and presentations
27-October, 7pm-9pm:  XinCheJian Global Forum -- presentations by 13 if us
28-October-2017 -- fly home (arrive NA or EU on same day)

Very Useful Guide about Internet, Phones, Translation, and Navigation[edit | edit source]

One of the two Noah's who are on the HTTC2017 wrote this very useful guide!

Hong Kong Guide[edit | edit source]

Hong Kong Guide

Photos and articles from Hacker Trip To China 2017[edit | edit source]

Mitch's photos from Hong Kong, Oct-2017
Mitch's photos from Shenzhen, Oct-2017
Mitch's photos from Xi'an, Oct-2017
Mitch's photos from Beijing, Oct-2017
Mitch's photos from Shanghai, Oct-2017
Mitch's photos from Beijing Set 2, Oct-2017

Mitch's photos for HTTC 2017 all in one place

Baidu News Search about the China US Maker Tour in Xi'an[edit | edit source]

Courtesy of Noah. We got to meet the mayor and it was a big deal locally!

Ruth's articles about factory and makerspace tours[edit | edit source]

Photos from Hacker Trip To China 2016[edit | edit source]

Mitch's Photos[edit | edit source]

Mitch's photos from Shanghai, Oct-2016
Mitch's photos from Zhengzhou, Oct-2016
Mitch's photos from Shenzhen, Oct-2016
Mitch's photos from Beijing, Oct-2016
Mitch's photos from Hangzhou, Oct-2016
Mitch's photos from Beijing Set 2, Oct-2016

Mitch's photos for HTTC 2016 all in one place

Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2015[edit | edit source]

Mitch's photos from Hong Kong, Oct-2015
Mitch's photos from Shenzhen, Oct-2015
Mitch's photos from Shanghai, Oct-2015
Mitch's photos from Beijing, Oct-2015
Mitch's photos from YiWu & Hangzhou, Oct-2015
Mitch's photos from Beijing Set 2, Oct-2015
Mitch's photos from Shanghai & Suzhou, Oct-2015

Mitch's photos for HTTC 2015 all in one place

Dave's photos

Blake's photos:

Torrey's photos from Hong Kong
Torrey's photos from Shenzhen
Torrey's photos from Beijing
Torrey's photos from Shanghai

Photos from Hacker Trip to China 2014[edit | edit source]

Mitch's photos from Beijing, Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Shanghai, Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Shenzhen, Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Kunshan, Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Shanghai (2), Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Beijing (2), Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Tianjin, Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Beijing (3), Nov-2014
Mitch's photos from Singapore, Dec-2014

Mitch's photos for HTTC 2014 all in one place

You will Need a Chinese Visa!![edit | edit source]

To go to China, you needed to get a visa!

Everyone should get a multiple-entry Tourist L visa (if you only get a single-entry visa, you'll be fine, but you won't have as many options, such as going in and out of Shenzhen to Hong Kong).

  • And to get a visa, you need to have a passport that is valid at least 12 months after you planned to fly away from China (so, e.g., if you are leaving China on 28-October-2017, then your passport needs to be valid through 27-October-2017). Your passport must also have at least one entirely blank page.
  • You also need:
    • a printout of a filled-out Visa Application Form V. 2013 of the People's Republic of China (after we have everything we need I'll email you my filled out form as an example to follow).
    • a copy of the information pages of your passport.
    • a copy of your most Chinese visa (if you have been to China before).
    • one 2"x2" recent color photo (not a printout).
    • a screenshot or printout of hotel reservation confirmation (I'll email this to you when I have this).
    • a copy of your airline tickets (both to and from China).
  • For US citizens, the visa cost $140 (much cheaper for other nationalities). Starting this year, US citizens can get a multiple-entry visa, good for 10 years. We should all apply for a Tourist L visa.

You can pay the fee by Visa, MasterCard, Money Order, Cashier's Check or Company Check. Cash or Personal checks are not acceptable.

To get a visa, you can go to your local Chinese consulate. No appointment is required. You go in one day, and it will be ready for pick up 4 business days later. My experience is that it takes about an hour the first day, and takes only a few minutes to pick up the visa a few days later. (2 to 3 business-day and 1 business day/same-day express service is available for $20 or $30.)

NOTE: The Chinese consulates are all closed for holidays on: 27-30 January, 29-30 May, 30-May, 9-June, 4-July, 4-September, 2-October, 9-October and other dates:
2017 Chinese Consulate Holiday Schedule

(Citizens of US and Europe do not need a separate visa for Hong Kong.)

Previous Noisebridge China Trips[edit | edit source]

If you're curious about the previous Noisebridge China Trips, they have their own wiki pages:
Hacker Trip To China 2009
          That first Noisebridge China Trip was inspired by Bunny Huang's "geek tour".
Hacker Trip To China 2011
Hacker Trip to China 2013
Hacker Trip to China 2014
Hacker Trip to China 2015
Hacker Trip to China 2016

-- Mitch.

People interested in going on the Hacker Trip to China #7, 2017:[edit | edit source]

Below is a list of people interested in going on this year's Hacker Trip To China.

You do not need to be a member of Noisebridge to go on this trip!

Please email me if you have any questions, or if you would like to meet up with us on the trip:
mitch *AT* CornfieldElectronics *DOT* com

The trip is limited to 20 people total (including Mitch)
-- the first 19 people (after Mitch) who are either there already, or who bought tickets to meet in our Trip's starting city (Hong Kong) on or before 8-October-2017 are the people who are in this Trip
       (which probably means flying away from home on or before 7-October)

Note: Many people have gotten good deals on their plane fares (including me) with the help of my friend Vlad at:
Feel free to email me, and I'll send your email to Vlad, who will be happy to help you with your flights.

Name Purchased flight? Flight info
1 Mitch Altman (Noisebridge, San Francisco, USA) YES Arrive: Hong Kong on 6-Oct at 17:10 -- flight CX254 (from LHR)
2 Robert Fitzsimons (TOG, Ireland) YES Arrive: Hong Kong on 8-Oct at 15:25 -- flight EK382 (from DXB)
Depart: Shanghai at 00:05 on Oct 29th (EK8303)
3 Noah O'Donoghue YES Arrive: Hong Kong on 8-Oct
4 Elle YES Arrive: I'm arriving on the 6th and have my own AirBNB until the 8th in Sheung Wan. I'll meet you all on the 8th. :)
5 Jonas S Karlsson YES Arrive: (live in HK)
6 Jan Marloth (fablab munich, Germany) YES Arrive: Hong Kong on 8-Oct at 7:20am -- flight SK963 (from ARN)
Depart: Beijing at 14:50 on Oct 24th (SK996)
7 Sasja ( YES Arrive: Hong Kong 8-Oct at 8:55am,
Depart: 28-Oct from Shanghai Hongqiao Airport at 20:55
8 Ed Buckley YES Arrive: Hong Kong 6-Oct at 1:45pm -- flight NH809 (from NRT)
9 Rafael Câmera Santos (, Brazil) YES Arrive: Hong Kong 8-Oct at 18:10 -- Flight UA 895 -- Leaving on 9-Nov from Hong Kong
10 Felix E. Klee YES Arrive: Hong Kong on 4-Oct at 09:45 -- flight SU0212 (from SVO)
11 Svein Berge YES Arrive: UO 1647 from Tokyo, scheduled arrival Oct 8, 23:00.
12 Krzysztof Stasiak YES Arrive: HK 6th Oct - flight AK138 from Kuala Lumpur
13 Mark Hellar YES Arrive:Hong Kong HKG 6:45 PM October 8th
14 Eric Boyd (Hacklab.TO, Toronto) YES Arrive: Hong Kong, Oct 8th 2:25pm EVA Airways BR869. Leave: Shanghai, Oct 28th 1:10pm Eva Airways, BR711
15 Ruth Grace Wong YES Arrive: October 9, Hong Kong, Leave: October 28, Shanghai
16 Hari C M (HasGeek, Bangalore, India) YES Arrive: 'Hong Kong on 7-Oct at 06:50 -- flight AI-314 (from DEL)
Depart: Shanghai at 22:00 on Oct 29th (AI-349)
17 freeman murray YES Arrive: Oct 7, Hong Kong American airlines 193.
18 Sumukh Shetty YES Arrive: 6th October HK, join for the entire trip
19 Gary Hatfield YES Arrive: Hong Kong Oct. 5
20 Michał Gajda YES Arrive: Flight to HK on Oct 3rd
21 Noah Swartz YES Arrive: 11:45 on Oct 9 on HK Express UO 1845
22 Bas YES Arrive: Oct 6, Hong Kong
23 Kaushik Reddy yes Arrive: Hong Kong on 8 Oct
Depart: Hong Kong on 15 Oct
HK & SZ only
24 Jeroen Van Beirendonck (Open Garage, Belgium) yes Arrive: Hong Kong on 7th Oct
Depart: Hong Kong on 15 Oct
HK & SZ only
25 Cedric Honnet (Datapaulette hackerspace - Paris, Fr.) yes Arrive: Hong Kong on 6 Oct
Depart: Hong Kong on 21 Oct
HK & SZ only
26 Mayank M. yes Arrive: Arriving in Hong Kong on 10/7. Flying out of Hong Kong on 10/17
HK & SZ only
27 Olivier de Saint-Hubert yes Arrive: ???
SZ only
28 Anthony Liekens (Open Garage, Belgium) yes Arrive: KL 4013 to arrive in Shenzhen on Oct 11, 18:00
Depart: From Shenzhen on Oct 18, 10:00
SZ only
29 Daan Gerits (Open Garage, Belgium) yes Arrive: KL 4013 to arrive in Shenzhen on Oct 11, 18:00
SZ only
30 Tim Lathouwers yes Arrive: arrive in Shenzhen on Oct 11
SZ only
31 Kate Hartman yes Arrive: I will be working in Shanghai the week of October 9th. Would love to join you in Shenzhen Oct 14/15/16
SZ only
32 Scotty Allen yes Arrive: Oct 11, Shenzhen -- will arrange own housing
SZ only
33 Gloria Chiang no Arrive: Beijing on (date TBD)
34 Marc Juul no Arrive: Beijing on (date TBD)
35 Quijano Flores -- PLEASE EMAIL ME no Arrive: Oct 8, Hong Kong
36 SYED JUNAID AHMED (Makers Hive, AndhraPradesh, INDIA) no Arrive: TBD
37 Rahul S Rajan (Kerala Startup Mission, India) no Arrive: TBD
38 Sasha Iatsenia no Arrive: TBD
39 Trent no Arrive: your arrival date and city here
40 Arseniy Klempner no Arrive: Oct 8, Hong Kong
41 Thomas Disley no Arrive: shenzhen & shanghai, arrival TBD
42 Adam Munich - SF_Noisebridge, Oakland_Sudoroom [1]] no Arrive: To be determined
43 Sreejith Mohanan -- PLEASE EMAIL ME no Arrive: TBD
44 Colin Willson -- PLEASE EMAIL ME no Arrive: TBD
45 Gene Brock no Arrive: Thai AirAsia FD508 from Don Mueang Int'l Airport (Bangkok) to HKG Sep 30th 6:30am arriving 10:30 am in HKG.
46 Michal Stefanow no Arrive: TBD
OUCH - I guess I'm too late - JOMO - joy of missing out - it means more quality time working on coworking coliving chapel in Wales, come and visit us sometimes. I might be able to visit HK and SZ and get a new laptop with larger storage, Ethereum blockchain size is not manageable on my current machine. Much love, ping me anytime: